Are Mormons Christian?

[pandora]

The 'exercise'?!?!?

Furthermore, there was no question in your post. Even if there were, one cannot have a discussion as your basis for such 'debate' is based on erroneous conjecture.

I don't pick and choose bits of what a word means. A definition of a word is just that - a whole. You can't just decide to ignore the parts that don't suit.

Clearly you don't understand...

faith is not always defined as without proof ... period.

For me the knowledge of God is faith.

as in the definition ...

any set of firmly held principles or beliefs

[PJ_Soul]

Let' post some quotes:
"I seen this stretch of bad road before... I ain't going down there, again."
-cosmo

HA!

[pandora]

Anyway... I'm not going to get bogged down in this. I just thought I would clarify a few basic points to maybe enable a grounded discussion. I have clarified, I have not enabled anything it would seem.

A grounded discussion is that where someone agrees with you?

Can't get much more grounded or clear in what my beliefs are and what brings me there.
Funny you have not given a clue as to yours in this grounded discussion.

Nor even tried to understand mine. Why? Is that not apart of a grounded discussion?
I guess providing definitions that are contrary to my point
is all you would like to add.


And this where it began...

Belief is belief, knowledge is knowledge and cannot be substituted.

But we see that belief and knowledge can and do go hand in hand
not always exclusively divided, that to have faith is to know,
and that indeed faith can be based in fact from life experiences.

Again try the 'faith exercise' and feel you will see.

[redrock]

As I said:

Anyway... I'm not going to get bogged down in this. I just thought I would clarify a few basic points to maybe enable a grounded discussion. I have clarified, I have not enabled anything it would seem.

I'll leave it to others if they wish.....

[PJ_Soul]

Naa, I'm out too. I've been down this road too many times as well... I'm just not in the mood for my head exploding from frustration this afternoon.

[redrock]

Can’t let it frustrate you! Just need to find norm’s lil’ guy and bring him in this thread to relieve tension!

Anyway, it’s midnight here – maybe time for bed!

[pandora]

This thread a comparison of 2 types of religions.

A comparison of believers. I have enjoyed what I have learned.

I also feel even those who do not believe have faith in something and can learn
to understand knowing God through whatever faith they have tangible or otherwise.

I believe those who do not believe, believe there is no proof, therefore there is no God...
this their firmly held belief.
So to some degree that is their faith, though they have no proof God does not exist.
Perhaps their life experiences have brought facts to them that support this belief.

[Cosmo]

Back to the lecture at hand.
The question on the floor is... Are Mormons Christians?
The answer is... Does it matter?

[PJ_Soul]

Back to the lecture at hand.
The question on the floor is... Are Mormons Christians?
The answer is... Does it matter?

I just know that there is something weird about Mormons. The part I'm troubled by is their exclusionist nature.
Christians are SUPPOSED to be accepting and generous of spirit. But Mormons exile. If they decide that the faith isn't for them everyone shuns them. Even their families. I knew some Mormons, and I was good friends with a girl whose immediate family left the church. And that was it. None of their friends or family would ever speak to them again. Not even her grandparents. The whole community that they'd known all their lives would have no contact with them. That doesn't seem very Christian to me.

[hedonist]

The answer is... Does it matter?

Gotta say that despite at times being somewhat circular, this has been a thought-provoking thread.

In no way do I mean to belittle the sincerity with which the original poster asked his question...but you know, I think this is it, Cosmo - when all is said and done, it really doesn't matter.

[Cosmo]

The answer is... Does it matter?

Gotta say that despite at times being somewhat circular, this has been a thought-provoking thread.

In no way do I mean to belittle the sincerity with which the original poster asked his question...but you know, I think this is it, Cosmo - when all is said and done, it really doesn't matter.

...
Yeah. This thing cropped up because of Mitt Romney. Personally, I don't care if he is a Mormon or a Christian or a Catholic, Jew, Muslim or Scientologist.
All I care about is if he is a shithead that will cater to his Wall Street cronie-buds and believes 'Trickle-down' means pissing off the penthouse balcony onto us middle-classers.
...
And i agree... I love the philosophic debates about the the natural world, the physical Universe, abstract thought and all that crap. It can be both thought provking... but, also, mind-numbing... depending on which road we choose to take (or not take).

[pandora]

Back to the lecture at hand.
The question on the floor is... Are Mormons Christians?
The answer is... Does it matter?

everything matters

[Flagg]

My head hurts.

[juan lester]

this is a thing that happened

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/us/di ... wanted=all

[PJ_Soul]

this is a thing that happened

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/us/di ... wanted=all

That is a good thing.