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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby unsung » Tue May 29, 2012 12:32 pm

polaris_x wrote:
i think gang violence is related to social infrastructure ... here in ontario ... we had minimal gang violence up until the conservatives started cutting all the social programs ... consequences were that after school programs for youth were cut ... single parents had to work more hours to make ends meet ...etc ... then we started putting money back into the social safety net and gang violence has subsided again ... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...



Ah, blame the taxpayer, it's their fault because they don't want to fund behavior programs to keep people from being animals.
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby catefrances » Tue May 29, 2012 1:14 pm

polaris_x wrote:... although the police won't officially say it to be the case - many officers believe after school programs for youth and better community involvement has made a difference ...



makes sense to me. kids get bored they do stupid shit... some it can be innocent but some can end up being illegal. theyre not wild animals.. they do need to be supervised and they do need structure.. especially if thats somewhat lacking in the home or where ever. these programmes are a good good thing and should be supported... where ever in the world they are.
Now what we have to understand is that this comes from an extremely clever and skillful program, that has manipulated us into ways of thinking that may be contrary to our own interests, but beneficial to the interests of the powers that be... beneficial to the interests of those who control our lives, and tax us until we have hardly a penny left to spend, take our money, and plough it into the creation of huge, armed bureaucracies, which exist to oppress us. We live in a society today where we may not make decisions, to explore our own consciousness. If I am not sovereign over my own consciousness, then I am sovereign over nothing.



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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby unsung » Wed May 30, 2012 5:19 am

Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby catefrances » Wed May 30, 2012 6:42 am

unsung wrote:Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.


and how do parents supervise their kids AND work to support them?? cant be two places at once. and besides we all know it takes a village to raise a child so...
Now what we have to understand is that this comes from an extremely clever and skillful program, that has manipulated us into ways of thinking that may be contrary to our own interests, but beneficial to the interests of the powers that be... beneficial to the interests of those who control our lives, and tax us until we have hardly a penny left to spend, take our money, and plough it into the creation of huge, armed bureaucracies, which exist to oppress us. We live in a society today where we may not make decisions, to explore our own consciousness. If I am not sovereign over my own consciousness, then I am sovereign over nothing.



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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby Blockhead » Wed May 30, 2012 6:52 am

catefrances wrote:
unsung wrote:Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.


and how do parents supervise their kids AND work to support them?? cant be two places at once. and besides we all know it takes a village to raise a child so...

Can't tell if this is a serious post or not???
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby polaris_x » Wed May 30, 2012 6:58 am

whether one wants to look at human development indexes or crime stats ... it is evident that countries that employ a socialized approach are more successful than countries that don't ...

i think a big problem many americans have is equating their dysfunctional corporately controlled gov't as meaning gov't is bad ... sure, if i had your gov't - i would say it sucks balls too but it doesn't mean the concept of gov't and social programs are bad ...
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby catefrances » Wed May 30, 2012 7:05 am

Blockhead wrote:
catefrances wrote:
unsung wrote:Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.


and how do parents supervise their kids AND work to support them?? cant be two places at once. and besides we all know it takes a village to raise a child so...

Can't tell if this is a serious post or not???


was there one of these...> ;) or one of these...> :lol: no? then it is a serious post. which part arent you grasping?
Now what we have to understand is that this comes from an extremely clever and skillful program, that has manipulated us into ways of thinking that may be contrary to our own interests, but beneficial to the interests of the powers that be... beneficial to the interests of those who control our lives, and tax us until we have hardly a penny left to spend, take our money, and plough it into the creation of huge, armed bureaucracies, which exist to oppress us. We live in a society today where we may not make decisions, to explore our own consciousness. If I am not sovereign over my own consciousness, then I am sovereign over nothing.



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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby shadowcast » Wed May 30, 2012 7:07 am

unsung wrote:Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.


I think you meant to say parent as over 75% of innner city black youths only have one parent. Mostly it's the mother.

70 percent of African American children are born to unmarried mothers, and [...] at least 80 percent of all African American children can now expect to spend at least a significant part of their childhood years living apart from their fathers

I will stand by this being the major part of the problem.
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby shadowcast » Wed May 30, 2012 7:10 am

Rahm's press conference highlights yesterday.

http://www.suntimes.com/12847955-761/af ... -help.html
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby Jason P » Wed May 30, 2012 7:11 am

polaris_x wrote:whether one wants to look at human development indexes or crime stats ... it is evident that countries that employ a socialized approach are more successful than countries that don't ...

i think a big problem many americans have is equating their dysfunctional corporately controlled gov't as meaning gov't is bad ... sure, if i had your gov't - i would say it sucks balls too but it doesn't mean the concept of gov't and social programs are bad ...

I don't know if you noticed, but we are broke down here. We tax the poor through a lotto system that is supposed to help the schools (and then we tax the lucky person that wins).

Send us some loonies and kokonees, pretty please.
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby polaris_x » Wed May 30, 2012 7:14 am

Jason P wrote:I don't know if you noticed, but we are broke down here. We tax the poor through a lotto system that is supposed to help the schools (and then we tax the lucky person that wins).

Send us some loonies and kokonees, pretty please.


kokonee!?? ... really!? ... :fp: :lol:

you guys are poor because you guys are continually getting raped by the big corporations ... i know you guys are programmed to think that pro business is good for everyone but that simply isn't the case ... trickle down economics is the biggest myth and fraud perpetrated on the american people! ...
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby unsung » Wed May 30, 2012 9:24 am

catefrances wrote:
unsung wrote:Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.


and how do parents supervise their kids AND work to support them?? cant be two places at once. and besides we all know it takes a village to raise a child so...



My parents worked, I did ok. Not one person from any village was needed to help me. What's the real issue?
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby unsung » Wed May 30, 2012 9:28 am

shadowcast wrote:Rahm's press conference highlights yesterday.

http://www.suntimes.com/12847955-761/af ... -help.html



More catering to the gangs, imagine that. Want it fixed? Wipe them out. I'd feel safer walking unarmed in a real jungle than parts of Chicago.
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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby 81 » Wed May 30, 2012 9:30 am

unsung wrote:
My parents worked, I did ok. Not one person from any village was needed to help me. What's the real issue?


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Re: Chicago Shooting stats

Postby catefrances » Wed May 30, 2012 9:38 am

unsung wrote:
catefrances wrote:
unsung wrote:Yes, they do need to be supervised. That is the job of the parents, not the taxpayers.


and how do parents supervise their kids AND work to support them?? cant be two places at once. and besides we all know it takes a village to raise a child so...



My parents worked, I did ok. Not one person from any village was needed to help me. What's the real issue?


thats awesome that you did ok. i did too as a latch key kid. but not all kids are the same. theyre not robots. not all kids live in the same circumstances. i fully acknowledge that not all kids were as fortunate as i was growing up and not everyone is as fortunate as i am now.
Now what we have to understand is that this comes from an extremely clever and skillful program, that has manipulated us into ways of thinking that may be contrary to our own interests, but beneficial to the interests of the powers that be... beneficial to the interests of those who control our lives, and tax us until we have hardly a penny left to spend, take our money, and plough it into the creation of huge, armed bureaucracies, which exist to oppress us. We live in a society today where we may not make decisions, to explore our own consciousness. If I am not sovereign over my own consciousness, then I am sovereign over nothing.



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