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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby Godfather. » Sun May 27, 2012 4:43 pm

so is there an answer ? what is in place to save these familys ?
is there a renewable energy sorce in place ?.....or did some dumbass just pull the plug on all these peoples lives with no respect to their livelyhoods and familys.....


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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby Godfather. » Sun May 27, 2012 7:01 pm

just in case he he he he.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-Tb7vTamY


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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby ONCE DEVIDED » Sun May 27, 2012 10:43 pm

Way to go Obama
Your a legend for doing this in my eyes
For far too long the lazy have had the right to cheaply poison our atmosphere.
Now your raising the price.
Higher prices means the lazy bludgers will complain and look elsewhere for their energy needs

We are introducing a big carbon tax in Australia as well
Great news for future generations that we finally are taking some responsibility in our actions
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby Last-12-Exit » Mon May 28, 2012 12:54 am

There is no such thing as "clean coal". There isn't a readily available source for our countys energy needs. Burning coal is not fading. The regulations are increasing power costs for all consumers, residential, commercial, and industrial. Would u rather have a coal fired plant 2 miles from your home or a nuclear plant?

The united states can shut down every coal fired plant in the country and it wouldn't put a dent in reducing pollutions because no country in Asia follows any environmental emissions controls.

I am sitting in my companies coal yard right now and praying obama will leave it the hell alone. I like my job. I make a good living burning almost 30,000 tons of this black gold a day.
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby Godfather. » Mon May 28, 2012 5:10 am

Last-12-Exit wrote:There is no such thing as "clean coal". There isn't a readily available source for our countys energy needs. Burning coal is not fading. The regulations are increasing power costs for all consumers, residential, commercial, and industrial. Would u rather have a coal fired plant 2 miles from your home or a nuclear plant?

The united states can shut down every coal fired plant in the country and it wouldn't put a dent in reducing pollutions because no country in Asia follows any environmental emissions controls.

I am sitting in my companies coal yard right now and praying obama will leave it the hell alone. I like my job. I make a good living burning almost 30,000 tons of this black gold a day.


I hope your job is not affected by all this bullshit and I wish you good luck.

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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby juan lester » Mon May 28, 2012 4:00 pm

well, this is happening.

http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-ene ... obama.html

fingers crossed to be up and running by december.
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby PJ_Soul » Mon May 28, 2012 4:06 pm

Godfather. wrote:
Last-12-Exit wrote:There is no such thing as "clean coal". There isn't a readily available source for our countys energy needs. Burning coal is not fading. The regulations are increasing power costs for all consumers, residential, commercial, and industrial. Would u rather have a coal fired plant 2 miles from your home or a nuclear plant?

The united states can shut down every coal fired plant in the country and it wouldn't put a dent in reducing pollutions because no country in Asia follows any environmental emissions controls.

I am sitting in my companies coal yard right now and praying obama will leave it the hell alone. I like my job. I make a good living burning almost 30,000 tons of this black gold a day.


I hope your job is not affected by all this bullshit and I wish you good luck.

Godfather.

... I kind of thought Last 12 Exit was being facetious because of the last sentence, but probably not. :?
Anyone must concede that moving away from coal will be a tough thing for some people involved in the industry (and, in the future, the move away from gasoline)... But that doesn't make it bullshit. Real change can be difficult... and necessary. Totally necessary. Presumably, jobs in the green energy sector will be created relative to the growth in that industry. Meanwhile, hopefully the government will be able to offer some useful help to those in the coal and gasoline industries as those jobs dwindle, but yeah, no one hold their breath. Anyway, in the end, we as a society need to support these kinds of changes and think in terms of the long run. Easy for one to say when she's not losing her job, but that doesn't make it any less true.
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby Last-12-Exit » Mon May 28, 2012 10:06 pm

juan lester wrote:well, this is happening.

http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-ene ... obama.html

fingers crossed to be up and running by december.


There's a reason that's being built in Wyoming. No American city can run on a 3000 MW wind farm. That's perfect for Wyoming farmers and small mom and pop business owners. The 4 units at the plant I work at can produce 2800mw at full capacity and we are still buying power to fill the need in the summer time.

I don't disagree with using renewable energy. But i a do disagree with obama throwing regulations down so heavy that it costs me my job.
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby ONCE DEVIDED » Mon May 28, 2012 11:31 pm

Godfather. wrote:
Last-12-Exit wrote:There is no such thing as "clean coal". There isn't a readily available source for our countys energy needs. Burning coal is not fading. The regulations are increasing power costs for all consumers, residential, commercial, and industrial. Would u rather have a coal fired plant 2 miles from your home or a nuclear plant?

The united states can shut down every coal fired plant in the country and it wouldn't put a dent in reducing pollutions because no country in Asia follows any environmental emissions controls.

I am sitting in my companies coal yard right now and praying obama will leave it the hell alone. I like my job. I make a good living burning almost 30,000 tons of this black gold a day.


I hope your job is not affected by all this bullshit and I wish you good luck.

Godfather.


actually godfather I work in the mining industry so it will be affected. but thats cool. I will suck the coin from it but when its gone our world will be better for it
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby Last-12-Exit » Tue May 29, 2012 12:55 am

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:
Godfather. wrote:
Last-12-Exit wrote:There is no such thing as "clean coal". There isn't a readily available source for our countys energy needs. Burning coal is not fading. The regulations are increasing power costs for all consumers, residential, commercial, and industrial. Would u rather have a coal fired plant 2 miles from your home or a nuclear plant?

The united states can shut down every coal fired plant in the country and it wouldn't put a dent in reducing pollutions because no country in Asia follows any environmental emissions controls.

I am sitting in my companies coal yard right now and praying obama will leave it the hell alone. I like my job. I make a good living burning almost 30,000 tons of this black gold a day.


I hope your job is not affected by all this bullshit and I wish you good luck.

Godfather.


actually godfather I work in the mining industry so it will be affected. but thats cool. I will suck the coin from it but when its gone our world will be better for it



Don't kid yourself, burning coal will never be gone.
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby ONCE DEVIDED » Tue May 29, 2012 1:26 am

Burning coal will never be gone is a lazy attitude
All that's required to wipe it is a cheaper, reliable alternative

Seing how coal in reality is energy from the sun trapped in swamps and wetlands that have been buried for millions of years well why can't we use the energy from our sun right now
Instead of expending massive amounts of other types of fuels to dig up,prepare, then freight coal around the world why not use the sun wherever we are. No transport costs

It easy and lazy to use coal. Simple
It's easy to keep on using it

So let's price the fucker so it's easier on your wallet to use alternates or just use less power
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby pandora » Tue May 29, 2012 5:27 am

thanks for the link to the letters ...

I'll lose my house if this electric bill goes any higher!

I agree get the alternative in place first! gosh darn it! :fp:

they must think we are all made out of money :evil:
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby inmytree » Tue May 29, 2012 5:31 am

PJ_Soul wrote:I don't understand... was this thread intended to speak against the reduction of coal use as an energy source? ... if so, that's like creating a thread that is in support of dumping toxic waste into the oceans so that chemical companies stop losing money. The war on toxic waste dumping! Please save toxic waste! :lol:

Yeah, no shit it can cost more not to destroy the planet. If that weren't the case, no one would be destroying the planet. :?

So way way to go Obama! :thumbup:


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exactly....well said...
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby inmytree » Tue May 29, 2012 5:32 am

Godfather. wrote:so is there an answer ? what is in place to save these familys ?
is there a renewable energy sorce in place ?.....or did some dumbass just pull the plug on all these peoples lives with no respect to their livelyhoods and familys.....


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I'm sure Mitt will be able to help these folks...
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Re: Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill

Postby cincybearcat » Tue May 29, 2012 5:39 am

unsung wrote:They are closing two coal fired electric plants near Chicago soon. I guess big labor didn't do Obama and Emmanuel enough favors. Instead 150+ union people are looking for work.



Perhaps we can have them ride stationary bikes to generate electricity?
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