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Born and raised

Postby kenneth gossard » Tue May 22, 2012 9:30 pm

I'm sure I will take a verbal beating for my opinion but fuck it.....this whole album is amazing...he was always a talented guitar player but he finally grew up and wrote something special here
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Re: Born and raised

Postby red mos » Tue May 22, 2012 10:54 pm

I like shadow days,looking firward to hearing the rest.
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Re: Born and raised

Postby musicismylife78 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:29 pm

john mayer is one of the best guitarists of our generation
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Re: Born and raised

Postby magikev » Wed May 23, 2012 1:32 am

Posted the exact same thing about the album a few days ago. Pretty big departure for him, and for the better definitely.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/67731 ... s-hologram is an awesome new sketch btw
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Re: Born and raised

Postby g under p » Wed May 23, 2012 10:39 am

He IS a very talented guitarist and keeps some of the most beautiful women backstage, Wow. I couldn't hang I had to leave and stay with my friend M Franti where the dressing room was much more normal.

that said I don't know much of his music but after a couple concerts he can play live and has a tremendous fan following especially women.

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Re: Born and raised

Postby chimpat » Wed May 23, 2012 12:26 pm

Real solid album, like it a lot more than his last. I think John's going through some things these last few years and a lot of that is reflected in the writing on Born & Raised.

My favorites are the title track, Age of Worry and Walt Grace's Submarine.

I've known John for about 20 years (became friends in 6th grade) and have been around him quite a bit during his career.... think he's really grown as an artist and a person.
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Re: Born and raised

Postby musicismylife78 » Wed May 23, 2012 7:39 pm

whats john like? i cant imagine his life is normal, and i dont think it could be normal either.

and g under p, whats michael's frame of mind nowadays? i got into him in 2000, when stay human came out and he primarily was thought of a social activist, jam band/hippie type. the crowd he played to in my hometown couldnt have been more than a few hundred.

Nowadays, he writes love songs, has hits on pop radio, goes on tour with john and santana, and plays to huge crowds.

certainly its his perogative to change his music style, but how has he changed, or has he changed from the disposable heroes of hiphopracy to 2012?

i first got into michael via a teacher in high school who was suggesting i might like his music because it was hip hop and political. nowadays, while he still makes great music, i dont think he's as overtly political nor is it necessarily hip hop either
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Re: Born and raised

Postby g under p » Thu May 24, 2012 3:41 pm

musicismylife78 wrote:whats john like? i cant imagine his life is normal, and i dont think it could be normal either.

and g under p, whats michael's frame of mind nowadays? i got into him in 2000, when stay human came out and he primarily was thought of a social activist, jam band/hippie type. the crowd he played to in my hometown couldnt have been more than a few hundred.

Nowadays, he writes love songs, has hits on pop radio, goes on tour with john and santana, and plays to huge crowds.

certainly its his perogative to change his music style, but how has he changed, or has he changed from the disposable heroes of hiphopracy to 2012?

i first got into michael via a teacher in high school who was suggesting i might like his music because it was hip hop and political. nowadays, while he still makes great music, i dont think he's as overtly political nor is it necessarily hip hop either


Met up with Michael and the band in DC then Philly on that tour....Michael took the time to introduce me to John who was very welcomong and gracious. We walked all through the Verizon Center and talked about the staging and the performance to come. I had a hard time believing JM was going to fill the large arena but it turned out he did so with ease. We ate food and talked about music...I was mostly quiet in that I knew none of his music i just knew I think he went out with a movie actress I can't remember.

Michael Franti was the perfect opening act for such a lage audience in that he got the crowd in s frenzy who appeared to be rather laid back. He went out and around this huge place and played his new songs at the time from the stands to the Sound Of Sunshine album. JM was great in inviting Micheal back out on stage to do a couple of his songs which by then packed house was glad to have Micheal back....the combo was great and mesmerizing to see. This was the frist time in 60+ concerts of Michael's that he played to such a large audience and it wasn't a festival. He Michael played and made that venue like it was the 9:30 Club in DC which holds maybe 1500.

I saw Michael and the band couple weeks ago at the Sunfest Festival here in S Florida and he was in great form in the mid day heat and sunshine. We talked about the new album and was there going to be more of a political side to it and he said he would like to go in that direction as he collaborates now with J and Carl the guitar and bass players. He ended with A NEW SONG which I can't remember the name but it struck me like how Yell Fire did when I first heard it in London days after he had just come back from Iraq and Isarel.

After so many years of writing lyrics and poetry from the political side after Stay Human he went in the direct of Rebel Rockers which produced a big radio hit then SOS album he maybe ready to go back to the political we shall see. It all depends on what inspires him and that I believe will drive his writngs and music. Oh let me add after touring with him many years ago...a band that toured 9 months a year to make ends meet. i don't blame them to allowing their songs and music to be used for commercials life on the road IS brutal as much as they toured. It made for Michael and the band members personal life to become a miserable state...far too many broken relationships. so i hope they can settle down a bit and make good music far into the future.

He did ask me what was my secret to dropping 45 lbs I told him I gave up meat and exercising he cracked *you gave it up AGAIN* :D It was good to see him it had been far too long..it's time again to do another tour with the band we do some crazy things together. :D

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Re: Born and raised

Postby chimpat » Fri May 25, 2012 8:31 am

musicismylife78 wrote:whats john like? i cant imagine his life is normal, and i dont think it could be normal either.



John's a good guy. He's a really unique person, I mean when we were 15 or 16, he KNEW he was going to be a professional musician, truly believed it. The one thing that I think people don't really get to see is how dedicated he is to his craft. The guy would (and probably still does) practice for hours upon hours. He was not your typical high school kid, really was so focused on such a bigger picture, just an incredibly driven person. Very unique and talented individual.

I think like most normal people, he's had his struggles with fame and everything that comes with it, but he seems like he's in a good place so I'm happy for him.
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Re: Born and raised

Postby musicismylife78 » Fri May 25, 2012 11:15 am

chimpat wrote:
musicismylife78 wrote:whats john like? i cant imagine his life is normal, and i dont think it could be normal either.



John's a good guy. He's a really unique person, I mean when we were 15 or 16, he KNEW he was going to be a professional musician, truly believed it. The one thing that I think people don't really get to see is how dedicated he is to his craft. The guy would (and probably still does) practice for hours upon hours. He was not your typical high school kid, really was so focused on such a bigger picture, just an incredibly driven person. Very unique and talented individual.

I think like most normal people, he's had his struggles with fame and everything that comes with it, but he seems like he's in a good place so I'm happy for him.



i agree. ive always been a fan and think most people just remember Wonderland and dont realize he's truly a blues player and guitarist at heart, not some pop star that he was marketed as for years.

Seems to me, although you could tell us better than anyone, he's in a good place now. seems like the new recrod is quiet, understated, and subtle but good. Ive heard he's moved to Montana, and seems to just want to focus on music now, isnt into the fame, and star thing anymore, if he ever was. I think maybe for awhile he got a thrill out of the being famous thing, but now he's settled down, and realized that fame and money isnt where its at.
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Re: Born and raised

Postby Stardog3.. » Fri May 25, 2012 11:44 am

Definitely a different vibe. Enjoy it but definitely not my favorite. I think he's extremely talented but sometimes is disregarded by people due to his public persona.
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Re: Born and raised

Postby musicismylife78 » Fri May 25, 2012 3:59 pm

im finding this album pretty damn good and as i said understated as hell. Some of the instrumental parts remind me almost of something you'd hear a jam band play. for instance the ending minute or so of Queen of California, the instrumental part wouldnt feel all that out of place coming out of the speakers at a String Cheese or Widespread show, interesting album.
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Re: Born and raised

Postby kenneth gossard » Fri May 25, 2012 9:46 pm

On about my 12th spin... This album is top shelf....
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Re: Born and raised

Postby EdsonNascimento » Tue May 29, 2012 7:49 am

Walt Grace might be one of the best songs I've heard from ANYONE in a very long time.

First, the Beatlesque influence (it's a bit folksy, too, but I think the sound is more Beatles influenced than folk as some people have been saying).

But, the lyrics are just... well.. Incredible. The way he uses language in this one is beyond compare. I actually thought is was a sad song the first time I heard it, but it is clearly a celebration of the best kind. I also know there is some sentiment that it actually is a sad song ---- It is not. It is basically saying - sometimes you have to take chances against everyone's well meaning advice, put your nose to the grind stone and succeed beyond everyone's wildest imagination.

Anyone that thinks this is a sad song, there's 2 dead (sorry for the pun) giveaways - "The call she planned on receiving...... The news she never expected." (His wife knew she'd be getting a call, but that he died, not that he succeeded) and "...as they SPEAK of a man...." The drunkards take their sad lives and mention how they once knew this guy that succeeded so greatly (i.e. living vicariously through their friend's success as drunkards will do). You TOAST a dead man (a word which would have fit within the beat as easily as SPEAK). You SPEAK of those you admire.

There's more, and sorry if I played spoiler. But, this song is just SOOOOOOOOO good lyrically I couldn't help myself.

(I also don't think he necessarily left his family which is another brilliant turn of the language on his part. And that adds to the fascination of the lyrics. I can definitely see that interpretation, but I think it's a matter of the wife wants to play it safe and live their lives, and he does something so incredible that changes their life so enormously. I don't think there's a line in here that is NOT a metaphor. Taking anything literal should go out the window with the title of the song.)

Not ashamed to say this is a great album, and this is the center piece to me.
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Re: Born and raised

Postby helplessdancer » Tue May 29, 2012 9:16 am

i havent got the new cd yet but am a fan+
i ordered the cd with some presale cds(grace potter) and they all ship together
had tickets for his spring tour until he had to cancel re his throat(again)
hope he gets well soon and after reading this thread i can't wait to spin the new cd :D
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