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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby DriftingByTheStorm » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:35 pm

pandora wrote:I believe Zimmerman thought he was doing what was required of him and then
a confrontation occurred and in that scary moment he protected himself.


I believe Zimmerman was an out-of-control vigilante who has a clearly demonstrated unstable past (assault on a police officer while resisting arrest?) ... a history of making mountains-out-of-molehills with regard to phoning the cops for nothing ... a questionable attitude toward race at best ... and who was heard on the phone with the cops huffing-and-puffing in predatory pursuit of a small child (who he had made several condescending\derrogatory remarks about already) and whom he hunted down and then likely lunged upon -- a kid whom you can then hear in a neighbor's phone call screaming bloody-murder for his life after trying to fight off an attacker over twice his stature -- and then shot him dead, for no reason other than he had nothing better to do, was slightly deranged to start with, and should have been removed from neighborhood watch after one of the first 45 times he called the cops for no good reason.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby PJ_Soul » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:38 pm

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
pandora wrote:I believe Zimmerman thought he was doing what was required of him and then
a confrontation occurred and in that scary moment he protected himself.


I believe Zimmerman was an out-of-control vigilante who has a clearly demonstrated unstable past (assault on a police officer while resisting arrest?) ... a history of making mountains-out-of-molehills with regard to phoning the cops for nothing ... a questionable attitude toward race at best ... and who was heard on the phone with the cops huffing-and-puffing in predatory pursuit of a small child whom he then likely lunged upon -- a kid whom you can then hear in a neighbor's phone call screaming bloody-murder for his life after trying to fight off an attacker over twice his stature -- and then shot him dead, for no reason other than he had nothing better to do, was slightly deranged to start with, and should have been removed from neighborhood watch after one of the first 45 times he called the cops for no good reason.

Totally. I think the man is a wannabe Dirty Harry who feels like the big man in town with a gun in his hand. Simple as that. That idiotic website certainly didn't help my opinion of him.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby DriftingByTheStorm » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:53 pm

PJ_Soul wrote:That idiotic website certainly didn't help my opinion of him.


Probably the single most questionable use of that Edmond Burke quote I can think of.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

What in GOD's name does that have to do with his situation?
Even if he does truly believe himself innocent of criminal charges,
surely he can't be so deluded as to think he was doing (or did) a "good" thing?
He thinks he is a "good man"?
He thinks that he was helping to triumph over evil?

Yeesh.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Indifference » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:22 am

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/m ... r-3659891/

What Parker says happened next could make the fallout from the brutal beating even worse. As the attackers walked away, leaving Owen bleeding on the ground, Parker says one of them said "Now thats justice for Trayvon." Trayvon Martin is the unarmed teenager police say was shot and killed February 26 by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in Samford, Florida.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby JonnyPistachio » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:08 am

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
PJ_Soul wrote:That idiotic website certainly didn't help my opinion of him.


Probably the single most questionable use of that Edmond Burke quote I can think of.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

What in GOD's name does that have to do with his situation?
Even if he does truly believe himself innocent of criminal charges,
surely he can't be so deluded as to think he was doing (or did) a "good" thing?
He thinks he is a "good man"?
He thinks that he was helping to triumph over evil?

Yeesh.


That website is ludicrous. Completely tactless.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby usamamasan1 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:08 am

Where are the marches Indifference? Where is the outrage?

Did you see this Baltimore hate crime? Those thugs.

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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby JonnyPistachio » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:15 am

usamamasan1 wrote:Where are the marches Indifference? Where is the outrage?

Did you see this Baltimore hate crime? Those thugs.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sec ... ted-467891


wrong thread. Start a new one for that story.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Monster Rain » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:18 am

Indifference wrote:http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

What Parker says happened next could make the fallout from the brutal beating even worse. As the attackers walked away, leaving Owen bleeding on the ground, Parker says one of them said "Now thats justice for Trayvon." Trayvon Martin is the unarmed teenager police say was shot and killed February 26 by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in Samford, Florida.


It's sad that anyone would think a mob attack on someone unrelated to the incident in Florida in any way represents justice.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby polaris_x » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:27 am

Monster Rain wrote:It's sad that anyone would think a mob attack on someone unrelated to the incident in Florida in any way represents justice.


and this is why america needs to stop burying its racial divides ...
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Jason P » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:48 am

polaris_x wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:It's sad that anyone would think a mob attack on someone unrelated to the incident in Florida in any way represents justice.


and this is why america needs to stop burying its racial divides ...

I think the whole point of the civil rights movement is to bury the racial divides.

Or we can create a huge story based on false and manipulative reporting and stoke the flames. How is that working out?
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby polaris_x » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:51 am

Jason P wrote:I think the whole point of the civil rights movement is to bury the racial divides.

Or we can create a huge story based on false and manipulative reporting and stoke the flames. How is that working out?


the evidence is ample man ... why you choose to ignore it is mind boggling ... forget this story ever broke, heck forget this story ever happened ... you think america is living in racial harmony now?
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Jason P » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:44 am

polaris_x wrote:
Jason P wrote:I think the whole point of the civil rights movement is to bury the racial divides.

Or we can create a huge story based on false and manipulative reporting and stoke the flames. How is that working out?


the evidence is ample man ... why you choose to ignore it is mind boggling ... forget this story ever broke, heck forget this story ever happened ... you think america is living in racial harmony now?

America is never living in harmony, regardless of race. This story has done nothing to help address harmony you seek, it only incites.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby polaris_x » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:47 am

Jason P wrote:America is never living in harmony, regardless of race. This story has done nothing to help address harmony you seek, it only incites.


i disagree ... it exposes ... it's denial that allows problems to persist and grow ...
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Jason P » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:57 am

polaris_x wrote:
Jason P wrote:America is never living in harmony, regardless of race. This story has done nothing to help address harmony you seek, it only incites.


i disagree ... it exposes ... it's denial that allows problems to persist and grow ...

I think there is a huge denial in overall perception as well. Is race the only factor in this issue?
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby polaris_x » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:03 am

Jason P wrote:I think there is a huge denial in overall perception as well. Is race the only factor in this issue?


rarely does something work in isolation ... but race is definitely a factor ...
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