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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Godfather. » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:11 am

brandon10 wrote:This is exactly what you get in a state with extremely relaxed gun laws, neighborhood watch rent-a-cop clowns shooting innocent children with skittles and pop in their pockets. And according to Jeremy Toobin it happens all the time in Florida without anyone getting arrested. This must be that great American nation people like Rick Santorum rave about. Sounds like an amazing place to live.



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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby g under p » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:34 am

I'm down here in S Florida and I have to say it appears Zimmerman acted as if he was hunting. Hunting for trouble with a kid who happened to be black. He's killed and Zimmerman claims self defense, when it appears the kid had no weapons on him.

Now that the US Justice dept and FBI is involved the truth will eventually come out, just be patient and you will see.

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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Godfather. » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:40 am

g under p wrote:I'm down here in S Florida and I have to say it appears Zimmerman acted as if he was hunting. Hunting for trouble with a kid who happened to be black. He's killed and Zimmerman claims self defense, when it appears the kid had no weapons on him.

Now that the US Justice dept and FBI is involved the truth will eventually come out, just be patient and you will see.

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great post ! I believe you are right g .

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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby USARAY » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:43 am

Give a little power to some this is what you get

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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby inmytree » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:02 am

for folks to quickly dismiss the issue of race in this matter is befuddling to me...

anyway, glad to see this will be investigated further...
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Pepe Silvia » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:33 am

cincybearcat wrote:
polaris_x wrote: ... the issue reeks of racism because the victim was black ...



I have no idea if it had any bearing on this situation. But your comment is part of the problem. That is the bottom line anymore isn't it?

It's funny, people talk all day about innocent until proven guilty. Then if a black man/woman is the victim of a crime by a white man/woman, instantly it's racial. It may be, but it also may not have a thing to do with it at all.



i wonder why he said
"he has his hand in his waistband and he's a black male"

and he's a black male??
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby RW81233 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:47 am

they always get away who's they? males? or black males?
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby polaris_x » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:55 am

Godfather. wrote:you're back peddling now but still screaming racism, this should make you happy....

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

FBI, Justice Department to Investigate Fla. Neighborhood Watch Killing [10:30 p.m. ET]

For more on this and other breaking news go to ABCNews.com: http://abcnews.go.com?nwltr=bn


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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby polaris_x » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:56 am

inmytree wrote:for folks to quickly dismiss the issue of race in this matter is befuddling to me...

anyway, glad to see this will be investigated further...


it's like i said ... many people want to believe that racism isn't as prevalent as it is ... and their first reaction to accusations of racism is to get defensive about it ... which is partly why it still exists ...
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby cincybearcat » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:03 am

inmytree wrote:for folks to quickly dismiss the issue of race in this matter is befuddling to me...

anyway, glad to see this will be investigated further...


I don't think it's that at all, no one is quickly dismissing the issue of race. Others are just quickly calling for it.

WHo said it wasn't a factor? Who on the internet here actually knows what happened or why? Seems to me that the neighborhood watch guy was really fed up with crime in his neighborhood and wasn't happy with the way police were handling it (if they were doing anything at all). The color of this kid might have had something to do with this guy thinking he was a criminal, or he may have just been messed up in the head and ready to shoot anyone that looked suspicious, no matter their color. Who knows?
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby cincybearcat » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:05 am

polaris_x wrote:
inmytree wrote:for folks to quickly dismiss the issue of race in this matter is befuddling to me...

anyway, glad to see this will be investigated further...


it's like i said ... many people want to believe that racism isn't as prevalent as it is ... and their first reaction to accusations of racism is to get defensive about it ... which is partly why it still exists ...


Oh bullshit. Jumping to conclusions is bad, whether it be saying it definitely isn't or definitely is a race crime. Just seems like in this case the guy who did the shooting may have been looking to kill a criminal. I'm not yet sure if black=criminal to him or not. That is what I'm saying.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby gimmesometruth27 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:05 am

polaris_x wrote:
inmytree wrote:for folks to quickly dismiss the issue of race in this matter is befuddling to me...

anyway, glad to see this will be investigated further...


it's like i said ... many people want to believe that racism isn't as prevalent as it is ... and their first reaction to accusations of racism is to get defensive about it ... which is partly why it still exists ...

people like to stick their head in the sand and imagine that we live in a post-racism country, and act like racism is something from the distant past, but when you open your eyes and look around, it becomes clear that it is alive and well today and that the actual america does not live up to the idealized, imagined one that we like to pretend is the real america.

hopefully the feds will look into this and the truth will come out. i am not holding my breath, since the local police are basically speaking for the shooter and defending him.... law enforcement tends to look out for its own...so maybe nothing significant will come from the federal investigation..
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby cincybearcat » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:08 am

Pepe Silvia wrote:
cincybearcat wrote:
polaris_x wrote: ... the issue reeks of racism because the victim was black ...



I have no idea if it had any bearing on this situation. But your comment is part of the problem. That is the bottom line anymore isn't it?

It's funny, people talk all day about innocent until proven guilty. Then if a black man/woman is the victim of a crime by a white man/woman, instantly it's racial. It may be, but it also may not have a thing to do with it at all.



i wonder why he said
"he has his hand in his waistband and he's a black male"

and he's a black male??


Where is that? That would certainly be some evidence towards some racial bias.

I guess if someone is going to claim racism they should provide some evidence, that's what I am saying.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby gimmesometruth27 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:09 am

cincybearcat wrote:
Pepe Silvia wrote:
i wonder why he said
"he has his hand in his waistband and he's a black male"

and he's a black male??


Where is that? That would certainly be some evidence towards some racial bias.

I guess if someone is going to claim racism they should provide some evidence, that's what I am saying.

listen to the shooter's 911 call. the shooter says it to the dispatcher.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Godfather. » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:11 am

polaris_x wrote:
inmytree wrote:for folks to quickly dismiss the issue of race in this matter is befuddling to me...

anyway, glad to see this will be investigated further...


it's like i said ... many people want to believe that racism isn't as prevalent as it is ... and their first reaction to accusations of racism is to get defensive about it ... which is partly why it still exists ...


no it's over thinking and people like you that help to keep racism alive, the only crimes you guys care to talk about are crimes and or selfdefense aginst blacks but we never discuss the possibality of racism when a black attacks a white because they're white or attacks on brown people by blacks, you are to eager to play into the hands of racism even in a "what if" situation, you are to quick to jump my friend and that makes me wonder what your real interest are every time you make a post about racism on this forum.

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