euro tour 2010!!!!!!!!!

[Hinn]

Hello peeps,
How are we all, what do we think of all the rumours and annoyed people etc?

Nothing.

There's better things to focus on.

[dottles]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will.
I am pretty skint, and in July am already going to Berlin and Stockholm. It'd be over £100 in travel to either one of the UK dates plus accommodation. I think the demand for tickets will be high and there may not be many spares about, we shall see.

The bitching and general expectation that the world owes people something has gotten to me today. Que sera sera...

[Brisk.]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will.
I am pretty skint, and in July am already going to Berlin and Stockholm. It'd be over £100 in travel to either one of the UK dates plus accommodation. I think the demand for tickets will be high and there may not be many spares about, we shall see.

The bitching and general expectation that the world owes people something has gotten to me today. Que sera sera...

How do you live all the way down there?

[ilockyer]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will.
I am pretty skint, and in July am already going to Berlin and Stockholm. It'd be over £100 in travel to either one of the UK dates plus accommodation. I think the demand for tickets will be high and there may not be many spares about, we shall see.

The bitching and general expectation that the world owes people something has gotten to me today. Que sera sera...

There's been no more than for other tour announcements, has there? To be honest, I think they should do away with the whole Tweet thing, and telling people when they need to renew by in order to be eligible. Just put the dates out there, if people weren't renewed in time then they miss out. Society is too spoon fed for its own good these days!

[dottles]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will.
I am pretty skint, and in July am already going to Berlin and Stockholm. It'd be over £100 in travel to either one of the UK dates plus accommodation. I think the demand for tickets will be high and there may not be many spares about, we shall see.

The bitching and general expectation that the world owes people something has gotten to me today. Que sera sera...

There's been no more than for other tour announcements, has there? To be honest, I think they should do away with the whole Tweet thing, and telling people when they need to renew by in order to be eligible. Just put the dates out there, if people weren't renewed in time then they miss out. Society is too spoon fed for its own good these days!

No, there hasn't but it just got to me, I guess I don't understand the mindset, I don't have the expectation. Maybe it is my simple mind but yeah, the tweets compound matters it seems.

[Brisk.]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will.
I am pretty skint, and in July am already going to Berlin and Stockholm. It'd be over £100 in travel to either one of the UK dates plus accommodation. I think the demand for tickets will be high and there may not be many spares about, we shall see.

The bitching and general expectation that the world owes people something has gotten to me today. Que sera sera...

There's been no more than for other tour announcements, has there? To be honest, I think they should do away with the whole Tweet thing, and telling people when they need to renew by in order to be eligible. Just put the dates out there, if people weren't renewed in time then they miss out. Society is too spoon fed for its own good these days!

True!!

[dimitrispearljam]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will.
I am pretty skint, and in July am already going to Berlin and Stockholm. It'd be over £100 in travel to either one of the UK dates plus accommodation. I think the demand for tickets will be high and there may not be many spares about, we shall see.

The bitching and general expectation that the world owes people something has gotten to me today. Que sera sera...

There's been no more than for other tour announcements, has there? To be honest, I think they should do away with the whole Tweet thing, and telling people when they need to renew by in order to be eligible. Just put the dates out there, if people weren't renewed in time then they miss out. Society is too spoon fed for its own good these days!

its a trick that makes people renew no matter where is the show
alot will not renew if the know the band will not play near them..

[ilockyer]

its a trick that makes people renew no matter where is the show
alot will not renew if the know the band will not play near them..

A cynical marketing ploy?

[dimitrispearljam]

its a trick that makes people renew no matter where is the show
alot will not renew if the know the band will not play near them..

A cynical marketing ploy?

sure..if they Tweet for S america,who will renew?
etc...

[ilockyer]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will.
I am pretty skint, and in July am already going to Berlin and Stockholm. It'd be over £100 in travel to either one of the UK dates plus accommodation. I think the demand for tickets will be high and there may not be many spares about, we shall see.

The bitching and general expectation that the world owes people something has gotten to me today. Que sera sera...

There's been no more than for other tour announcements, has there? To be honest, I think they should do away with the whole Tweet thing, and telling people when they need to renew by in order to be eligible. Just put the dates out there, if people weren't renewed in time then they miss out. Society is too spoon fed for its own good these days!

No, there hasn't but it just got to me, I guess I don't understand the mindset, I don't have the expectation. Maybe it is my simple mind but yeah, the tweets compound matters it seems.

I think there is less expectation from us here in Europe, we do accept they're an American band and we won't see them as much. An American should expect to see an American band play more at home than they have overseas, both are equally reasonable and understandable positions.

In terms of band size in respective countries, take Oasis circa 2000, on the decline from their peak but still huge over here. Can you imagine the outcry there'd have been from their fans if the band toured everywhere else and gave their home fans the scraps left over in the calendar.

Then add into the mix that the frontman from the band might be on the road much more than the band, after saying that they wouldn't tour so much because of the whole family thing. This further dilutes their chance to see the band they love. That's what I think it feels like to some of our continental friends in relation to this band. Are they right to vent? Absolutely. It's better to have divided opinions than some cultish fawning over everything being the best ever and nobody having an opinion to the contrary (and they are out there!).

At the end of the day, we're all just a bunch of armchair warriors with opinions and a keyboard and often not the sense to edit before or after posting!

its a trick that makes people renew no matter where is the show
alot will not renew if the know the band will not play near them..

A cynical marketing ploy?

sure..if they Tweet for S america,who will renew?
etc...

South America is almost an exception, it's pretty much a given they'll hardly ever go there. But an email sent only to South American fans who are on the mailing lists or have been a member within the last x number of years would work. Data sorting is easy on a computer. Give them the presale link that way.

Or there's the often mentioned Dave Matthews approach, tell everyone where you'll be touring at the beginning of the year, and let them decide. If they don't want the magazine/single or the chance for presale tickets then they don't renew, simple. A fan club should surely be about providing opportunities, charged to cover costs, not as a profit stream in its own right.

[dimitrispearljam]

[redrock]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will. ..

I've entered for London but somehow, the excitement is just not there. If I don't get tix, I'm not really fussed. I feel more excited seeing Cornell solo. Is that bad?

[ilockyer]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will. ..

I've entered for London but somehow, the excitement is just not there. If I don't get tix, I'm not really fussed. I feel more excited seeing Cornell solo. Is that bad?

I think many feel the same. Put in for Manc though can't really afford it. Only went for it as it's a weekend.

[redrock]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will. ..

I've entered for London but somehow, the excitement is just not there. If I don't get tix, I'm not really fussed. I feel more excited seeing Cornell solo. Is that bad?

Just saw that Slash was playing a gig at the Apollo in London in June. MUCH MORE excited about that!!!!!!!

[dottles]

I've not entered any lottery and am doubtful if I will. ..

I've entered for London but somehow, the excitement is just not there. If I don't get tix, I'm not really fussed. I feel more excited seeing Cornell solo. Is that bad?

Just saw that Slash was playing a gig at the Apollo in London in June. MUCH MORE excited about that!!!!!!!

I want to see Ed, but it's just the expense of buying two tickets up front then thinking about trains/planes/hotels - especially in London during the olympics. I will have seen PJ 3 times that month.