polaris_x wrote:inlet13 wrote:Ha ha ha.. you crack me up. You claim anyone who doesn't fully back Global Warming is a liar or is selling propaganda. You went as far to claim I'm a troll? Really? If so, you're a troll. Everyone here is a troll, unless they completely agree? You kidding?
You have to get your head out of the sand. You don't want a discussion, you want a monologue. You go spouting that putting forward new information on a subject is bad. Are you planning on burning books you don't agree with next?
i would love a discussion ... but all you do is post propaganda pieces and lies ... do you not see how infuriating it is when you have absolutely zero independent thought on the subject and all you do is post links that are consistently proven to be lies!??
again - go educate yourself on global warming ... form an articulate position based on your own critical thinking ... and contribute to the discussion ...
posting links that are proven to be lies just continues to prove my point ... and by not responding to them and just doing it over and over again IS TROLLING ...
You don't want a discussion. You want me to completely agree with what you've trained yourself to "know" is certainty.
In a real world, every single thing you post on this subject could be considered "propaganda and lies" as much as anything I have posted on it or anyone else posts on the subject. In many cases there's entities behind those who come up with the research you bring to the table, and I'd admit that in many cases there are entities behind those who come up with the research which I've brought to the table. As I've stated earlier in the thread, you aren't doing the research, so you just "trust" it's right. I'm saying, "I don't know the answer here, but you're brainwashed if you don't at least question whether your position could be wrong".
In that sense, the concept of propaganda and lies depends on your position on the subject. If we stick with this framework mentioned above, you post propaganda and lies on this subject. You claim you have independent thought, but you aren't willing to consider the proposition that you're theory could be wrong. You immediately dismiss any subject matter brought to the table, in most cases without properly refuting the subject matter and just saying "it's lies and propaganda" and that "you've already refuted similar topics". If you do dig into the matter and do respond, you claim that the person posting needs to educate themselves, as if you're superior in intelligence or something.
My posts and presence here is not for you. You can dislike that I occasionally post because it falls against a policy or concept that you feel fervent about. Further, you certainly can discuss what you don't like or what you feel is non-factual. But, to claim that posting anything that you don't agree with is trolling just because you don't like it, is down right nonsensical and not only shows emotional immaturity, it shows a lack of an open mind. This is a political forum. Not everyone agrees. You want the subject of Global Warming, and the debate associated, to be closed. The reality is it's not and, most likely, won't be in our lifetime.
This is a possibility, IMHO:
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0907/global-warming-demotivational-poster-1247925266.jpg