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Postby GreenTeaDisease » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:01 am

NY PJ1 wrote:i feel ya i really do

but its not my money lol


haha no I know. I know that a LOT of people feel it necessary to spend this much on a ring. I just think it's a really screwy institution...I mean think of what you could do with the $25K after you get married, if you have kids. you could start a decent college fund with that.

maybe it's because I've studied economics for so long...I always think it terms of choices and value and relative prices etc. I just have trouble justifying this kind of thing to myself.
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Postby dunkman » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:02 am

Heineken Helen wrote:I guess people just have different budgets... and some people see the amount you spend as proof of your love. I can understand that. If someone gave me a 25,000 ring I wouldn't say no :D but after I found out how much it was worth, I reckon I'd suggest we cash it in, get something maybe for 1,500 and live like kings and queens for a few months :)



there'd be no point.. cos if he can afford 25k on a ring then he must be able to afford to live like a king anyway.

i'm one of those folks who if i won the lottery and had £5,000,000 in the bank i still couldnt buy a shirt that cost more than £200... i think its called being 'scottish' :D .... but seriously i couldnt do that... i'd spend £38483 on a toilet that had a tv on the bottom of it so that when you peed on it it would change channel or something.. but £200 on a shirt.. fucking no chance
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Postby The Champ » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:03 am

dunkman wrote:thats fucking obscene... for $25000 you could do a lot more than a shiny ring... i'd rather be single than be with someone who wanted a ring for that much... plus $25000 can buy you a lot of hookers.


This is true, and if my girl wore a fucking 25k ring on her finger, i'd be worried everyday that she'd be killed and/or robbed on the subway for it..Hell, even i'd probably steal that shit at some point..
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Postby GreenTeaDisease » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:04 am

Heineken Helen wrote:I guess people just have different budgets...


I actually don't know if it's about budget. people nowadays (especially in the U.S.) have a nasty habit of thinking they "need" things they can't afford.
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Postby Heineken Helen » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:04 am

GreenTeaDisease wrote:haha no I know. I know that a LOT of people feel it necessary to spend this much on a ring. I just think it's a really screwy institution...I mean think of what you could do with the $25K after you get married, if you have kids. you could start a decent college fund with that.

maybe it's because I've studied economics for so long...I always think it terms of choices and value and relative prices etc. I just have trouble justifying this kind of thing to myself.

well I'm guessing if you can afford that kinda ring, college funds aren't an issue anyway

but I see dunk already has that one covered :)
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Postby Heineken Helen » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:07 am

The Champ wrote:This is true, and if my girl wore a fucking 25k ring on her finger, i'd be worried everyday that she'd be killed and/or robbed on the subway for it..Hell, even i'd probably steal that shit at some point..

My favourite ring... considering how long ago I bought it in Turkey and how much it was worth then and all that stuff is probably worth maybe 700euro or something. When I got it, it was the first white gold sparkley thing I had and walking around Turkey with that on my hand, it was probably the first timein my life I felt vulnerable... cos if light hit off of it the fucking thing would shine for miles. So I kinda kept my hand hidden which defeated the purpose :D and I suppose I've gotten used to it now... but 25,000 :eek: I'd want to keep that in a safe.
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Postby GreenTeaDisease » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:08 am

Heineken Helen wrote:well I'm guessing if you can afford that kinda ring, college funds aren't an issue anyway

but I see dunk already has that one covered :)


well, it is possible, but as I said in my last post, budget and "affording" things really don't seem to matter in this country anymore. I mean, I'm sure this guy is financing the ring. It's possible he's got $25k spare in the checking account, but unlikely.
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Postby NY PJ1 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:08 am

The Champ wrote:This is true, and if my girl wore a fucking 25k ring on her finger, i'd be worried everyday that she'd be killed and/or robbed on the subway for it..Hell, even i'd probably steal that shit at some point..



his girlfriend played softball in college ,,she used to work for the yankees
and i have personally witnessed her hit a hardball to deep right at the stadium (maybe 240-250 ft when we played a pickup game during the offseason
point being she can handle herself plus she carries a few weapons of choice in her bag lol
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Postby edvedder913 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:11 am

GreenTeaDisease wrote:I can see that, but when it comes down to it, it's a rock. it's a piece of rock you wear on your finger. it just goes to show the state of our society when people don't think twice about spending that much on something that really has no practical use. After a few weeks, it's just a ring. She'll put it on every day and it'll just become part of getting dressed in the morning.



I whole heartedly disagree with this statement in a HUGE way. we each see things differently. while i respect your opinion, not everyone thinks like that.
jewelry has no practical use period - it doesn't dry clothes, cook dinner, etc. nor is it supposed to.

however, an engagement ring and wedding band is a SYMBOL of love. it is representative of a loving union between 2 people that can be handed down generation to generation.

i LOVE the fact that i have my mom's wedding band that my dad gave to her on their wedding day....a day i was not present (obviously) and my dad is no longer here. it is something i can have forever, that even remains once they are gone as a memory.

it is unfortunate that you only see it as part of a wardrobe, but many others do not. and if people have the $$, they have an absolute right to sepnd it as they please.

okay now that i just got all sappy i think i am going to go to the bathroom and puke :)
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Postby dunkman » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:11 am

NY PJ1 wrote:point being she can handle herself plus she carries a few weapons of choice in her bag lol



i dont think a slightly damp vibrator would put off a crack hungry mugger though ;)


25k for a ring.. its nuts.. plus there is the whole tipping shit to think about.. 10% on top of that is $27500... minus some tax and all that crap...

wait.. you dont tip jewelers do you??? no fucking wonder at 25k a ring... they probably use gold leaf to wipe their arse
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Postby dunkman » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:15 am

edvedder913 wrote:however, an engagement ring and wedding band is a SYMBOL of love. it is representative of a loving union between 2 people that can be handed down generation to generation.


thats right its a symbol... and symbols dont have to be diamond encrusted and worth more than an Indian persons house... like i said, even if i had $8 million in the bank i'd still not buy jewelery like that... its just to show off.
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Postby NY PJ1 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:15 am

dunkman wrote:i dont think a slightly damp vibrator would put off a crack hungry mugger though ;)


25k for a ring.. its nuts.. plus there is the whole tipping shit to think about.. 10% on top of that is $27500... minus some tax and all that crap...

wait.. you dont tip jewelers do you??? no fucking wonder at 25k a ring... they probably use gold leaf to wipe their arse



tip?? no we dont do that

but again its gonna be 15,000 out of pocket and the rest is coming from the diamond he already has

so its only 15,000
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Postby edvedder913 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:18 am

dunkman wrote:thats right its a symbol... and symbols dont have to be diamond encrusted and worth more than an Indian persons house... like i said, even if i had $8 million in the bank i'd still not buy jewelery like that... its just to show off.



some people spend thousands on sports memorabilia b/c it is something they enjoy. just b/c you like a ring that has a perfect stone and may be large does not necessarily mean you are "showing off" - you can just like the style and look of the ring.

everyone spends their money differently - i dont think it's anyone's place to judge. that's all.
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Postby The Champ » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:19 am

NY PJ1 wrote:his girlfriend played softball in college ,,she used to work for the yankees
and i have personally witnessed her hit a hardball to deep right at the stadium (maybe 240-250 ft when we played a pickup game during the offseason
point being she can handle herself plus she carries a few weapons of choice in her bag lol


Somehow I don't believe that a crazy fucker with a gun and/or a knife intend to do anything for that rock will be deterred by her baseball credentials, especially if he or she is a Met fan....and my girl used to be a newspaper reporter and I still fear for her safety, even when she doesn't :)..
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Postby NY PJ1 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:20 am

dunkman wrote:thats right its a symbol... and symbols dont have to be diamond encrusted and worth more than an Indian persons house... like i said, even if i had $8 million in the bank i'd still not buy jewelery like that... its just to show off.



its really not

i mean lets be realistic,,most girls would be in love w/ anything
and if they wouldnt then they dont deserve it anyway

but deep down everybody would like to wear something different and unique
and with today's prices it means alot of money

like my gf says "i dont care what it is" but i personally would never put a ring with a value of less than $7,500- 10,000 on her finger
and im broke
u want them to have something extra special imo
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