Wal-Mart Fights Maryland Law Mandating Minimus Level of Health Benefit Spending

[farfromglorified]

What about empathy, or understanding of the near-caste system we have here in the United States.

Empathy I can get on board with. I certainly empathize with Wal-Mart workers. That's why I don't shop at Wal-Mart. That's why I deliberately sought two employees from there.

Yes a few poor can make it out, but our class system has never been so strong as it is today, and that's messed up.

This is certainly not true. Our class system is much less strong that it was 150 years ago and 100 years ago and 50 years ago. We have much work to do, but to pretend that 2006 is the strongest point of the American class system is silly. Furthermore, don't you understand that it's laws like this, targetting a subset of the whole, that extend from the logic of classes as castes???

[ryan198]

go ahead and pretend that there are so many options for these folks...i prefer to work with the reality of a situation. the reality is this system is failing far too many.

the crazy thing is that this system is failing the poor everywhere...China, Japan, Argentina (twice), Chile, US, Canada, Germany, Great Britain

[farfromglorified]

are you implying that we should let people starve? this goes back to my first question, do you not care about other human beings?

No, I'm implying the exact opposite.

[farfromglorified]

go ahead and pretend that there are so many options for these folks...i prefer to work with the reality of a situation. the reality is this system is failing far too many.

Go ahead and pretend this is a response to my statement and/or my question.

[El_Kabong]

You pasted the whole list, but then pretended that there was only one item on it in your statment.

i...what? i posted them all but pretened there was only 1....? i didn't post them in the invisible font.

[ryan198]

Empathy I can get on board with. I certainly empathize with Wal-Mart workers. That's why I don't shop at Wal-Mart. That's why I deliberately sought two employees from there.



This is certainly not true. Our class system is much less strong that it was 150 years ago and 100 years ago and 50 years ago. We have much work to do, but to pretend that 2006 is the strongest point of the American class system is silly. Furthermore, don't you understand that it's laws like this, targetting a subset of the whole, that extend from the logic of classes as castes???

I'm glad you can afford to not shop at Wal-Mart, not everyone is that lucky.

The class system is certainly stronger now than it was 30 years ago...there is clear evidence of this (for numbers etc. see: Harvey, 2006; Grossberg, 2005; Giroux, 2005). Yes this law works from that logic, a logic that is in place today, but it at least works to break it down.

[farfromglorified]

the capitalist system guarantees that only a few can rise above or else it wouldn't work.

And what you propose seems to allow no one to rise above.

[farfromglorified]

no, that would be you....

No. I said:

"I'm not sympathetic. I don't base my political opinions off of pity or sympathy"

to which your cohort said:

"i think politics has a lot to do w/ it's citizens"

Did I misunderstand?

we call it justice

You call what justice? Your feelings???

[El_Kabong]

the crazy thing is that this system is failing the poor everywhere...China, Japan, Argentina (twice), Chile, US, Canada, Germany, Great Britain

privitization of a country's resources and utilities has failed in every single instance

we have grown accustomed to our lifestyle which is off the backs of the rest of the world. our consumption is mindblowing in comparison to other countries and that is unsustainable

[ryan198]

And what you propose seems to allow no one to rise above.

it's not that no one can rise above, but i think there is a such thing as too much...ideally we'd all start as children at $0 and earn everything we get, and then our children would start at $0. This way schooling, standards of living, etc. would exactly be a result of what the individual did during their life.

[farfromglorified]

I'm glad you can afford to not shop at Wal-Mart, not everyone is that lucky.

I'm not lucky. I earned what I have.

The class system is certainly stronger now than it was 30 years ago...

Perhaps, though I think many African Americans and many women would certainly disagree with you.

there is clear evidence of this (for numbers etc. see: Harvey, 2006; Grossberg, 2005; Giroux, 2005). Yes this law works from that logic, a logic that is in place today, but it at least works to break it down.

You cannot break down something by resorting to its tactics. You can't make peace with bombs.

[Abookamongstthemany]

Go ahead and pretend this is a response to my statement and/or my question.

i'm not going to bother answering ridiculous questions.

[surferdude]

I'm glad you can afford to not shop at Wal-Mart, not everyone is that lucky.

The class system is certainly stronger now than it was 30 years ago...there is clear evidence of this (for numbers etc. see: Harvey, 2006; Grossberg, 2005; Giroux, 2005). Yes this law works from that logic, a logic that is in place today, but it at least works to break it down.

Sorry but everyone can afford to not shop at Wal-Mart. My morals and principals are not for sale. Shopping at Wal-Mart only buys misery for others.

[Abookamongstthemany]

And what you propose seems to allow no one to rise above.

I disagree...more opportunies can equal more sucess.

[farfromglorified]

it's not that no one can rise above, but i think there is a such thing as too much...ideally we'd all start as children at $0 and earn everything we get, and then our children would start at $0. This way schooling, standards of living, etc. would exactly be a result of what the individual did during their life.

Ok! Now, how does the state targeting a single corporation, a single set of consumers, a single set of employees fit into this picture where everything is earned???? What did the benefactors of this policy do to earn the right to rob Wal-Mart alone?