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The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby NickGMusic » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:08 pm

Is it just me or does Adam Kasper/Brenden o' Brien just know how to mic up a drumset! I LOVE the sound of the drums on all PJ records, this may be something many people overlook, but the sound of the drums add a WHOLE lot to the vibe of the song. I think my favorite PJ record in terms of recording quality/sound/general vibe would have to be "VS." Every song on that album just sounds great.....any comments?!?!?
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby ms219209 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:43 pm

Excellent topic... For me, the best drum recordings are on "Riot Act." They continue to blow me away; very pure and organic sounding, very close and intimate, not overdriven. There's still power and energy, but also lots of subtle texture and precision that truly demonstrate what a wonderful drummer Matt Cameron is. Instead of taking their usual seat in the back of the room, the drums on this record find a place in the audible foreground, striking a beautiful balance. Dynamic, clean, and refreshing, the drum recordings on Riot Act are to my ears like cold water on a hot day to my mouth.
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby dimitrispearljam » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:33 am

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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby MichaelMcKevin » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:50 am

Definitely have to agree. I personally love the drums on Binaural... Insignificance especially.

Matt uses Yamaha Birch Custom drums, which are said to be the most recorded drums in the business. Birch shells have excellent recording qualities, and Yamaha has a reputation for making the best shells out there. Add that to some great studio engineering, and the results can be heard on any PJ album Matt has played on.
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby PatrickBateman » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:44 pm

ms219209 wrote:Excellent topic... For me, the best drum recordings are on "Riot Act." They continue to blow me away; very pure and organic sounding, very close and intimate, not overdriven. There's still power and energy, but also lots of subtle texture and precision that truly demonstrate what a wonderful drummer Matt Cameron is. Instead of taking their usual seat in the back of the room, the drums on this record find a place in the audible foreground, striking a beautiful balance. Dynamic, clean, and refreshing, the drum recordings on Riot Act are to my ears like cold water on a hot day to my mouth.

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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby NickGMusic » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:04 am

ms219209 wrote:Excellent topic... For me, the best drum recordings are on "Riot Act." They continue to blow me away; very pure and organic sounding, very close and intimate, not overdriven. There's still power and energy, but also lots of subtle texture and precision that truly demonstrate what a wonderful drummer Matt Cameron is. Instead of taking their usual seat in the back of the room, the drums on this record find a place in the audible foreground, striking a beautiful balance. Dynamic, clean, and refreshing, the drum recordings on Riot Act are to my ears like cold water on a hot day to my mouth.
MichaelMcKevin wrote:Definitely have to agree. I personally love the drums on Binaural... Insignificance especially.

Matt uses Yamaha Birch Custom drums, which are said to be the most recorded drums in the business. Birch shells have excellent recording qualities, and Yamaha has a reputation for making the best shells out there. Add that to some great studio engineering, and the results can be heard on any PJ album Matt has played on.



Well, Matt Cameron is just a beast when it come to playing anyway. He is one of the most musical rock drummers out of any today, and the best part is that he rarely shows off his chops, but when he does it's like, "What the hell just happened?" lol My favorite drum sound from Matt though was from Supernknown back with Soundgarden, I LOVE the drum sound on Superunknown, actually Superunknown is probably my favorite album of all time, but that's for another forum, haha. Riot Act is a great record, and I defintely agree with the organic part for sure, the whole record has this organic vibe to it, like your sitting in the room with them as their playing it, which it seems that's how they record most of their album anyway.
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby 12345AGNST1 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:29 am

I also love the subtleties on riot act. 1/2 full has some amazing drumming that you really gotta listen for.
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby NickGMusic » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:18 am

12345AGNST1 wrote:I also love the subtleties on riot act. 1/2 full has some amazing drumming that you really gotta listen for.



I think every PJ record has great drumming that is unique and fits so well with the style of the song, like on Yield, I can't imagine another drummer playing on that record besides Jack Irons, what he does just fits amazingly well, but the same goes for any record Matt has played on, and especially Dave
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby NickGMusic » Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:04 pm

NickGMusic wrote:
12345AGNST1 wrote:I also love the subtleties on riot act. 1/2 full has some amazing drumming that you really gotta listen for.



I think every PJ record has great drumming that is unique and fits so well with the style of the song, like on Yield, I can't imagine another drummer playing on that record besides Jack Irons, what he does just fits amazingly well, but the same goes for any record Matt has played on, and especially Dave


I like the way Dave tunes his drums, he's got a snare that smacks you in the face
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby NickGMusic » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:44 am

Anybody agree with me that the drum sound that you hear on most modern rock recordings of today suck? It sounds like fake ass in a cold room.
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby ScrapeMySky » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:09 am

NickGMusic wrote:Anybody agree with me that the drum sound that you hear on most modern rock recordings of today suck? It sounds like fake ass in a cold room.


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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby CJMST3K » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:02 pm

NickGMusic wrote:
12345AGNST1 wrote:I also love the subtleties on riot act. 1/2 full has some amazing drumming that you really gotta listen for.



I think every PJ record has great drumming that is unique and fits so well with the style of the song, like on Yield, I can't imagine another drummer playing on that record besides Jack Irons, what he does just fits amazingly well, but the same goes for any record Matt has played on, and especially Dave



Me too. PJ has adapted their studio sound to suit the drummer they're with at that time.

That said, I think Backspacer has some of the best sound overall for any album, including drums and vocals, but now I'm gonna have to give them a listen.
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby NickGMusic » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:09 am

I think it's crazy how the sound of drums on records change DRASTICALLY from like 1989 to 1990, it's like you listen to G n' R, and then Nirvana on Nevermind and it's crazy how much of a difference there is, with the guitars and everything else as well. Nirvana, PJ, Soundgarden, and many others just came out with this completely raw sound that was just so nasty it was good, and completely changed the way music sounds today,...in my opinion lol. Any comments?
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby CJMST3K » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:01 pm

NickGMusic wrote:I think it's crazy how the sound of drums on records change DRASTICALLY from like 1989 to 1990, it's like you listen to G n' R, and then Nirvana on Nevermind and it's crazy how much of a difference there is, with the guitars and everything else as well. Nirvana, PJ, Soundgarden, and many others just came out with this completely raw sound that was just so nasty it was good, and completely changed the way music sounds today,...in my opinion lol. Any comments?



I like it when drums sound like drums. When recording in a studio with tons of soundproofing, and gating every drum hit, it becomes too homogenized. When you record and capture the natural resonance of the drums, and a few mics in random areas of the room to capture natural decay, it makes it sound so much more organic.

Drums should have some bite to them. Backspacer has a good amount of bite on the drums.
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Re: The Sound of Drums on PJ records......

Postby dimitrispearljam » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:27 pm

in berlin the drums is the best i ever listen..
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