THE AVENGERS 2012

[polaris_x]

I've not been able to see it yet...But How was it compared to the last Batman Movie? Which is probably the marker for superhero films.

i think they are different genres to be quite honest ... the dark knight is a film that requires a great story and superb performances ... really, the majesty of heath ledger's jokers performance made that film imo ... the avengers is pure hollywood fluff where story is secondary ... it's the effects and writing that make this movie ...

it's really about building up action sequences that make its mark and this film does it really well ...

[Idris]

I've not been able to see it yet...But How was it compared to the last Batman Movie? Which is probably the marker for superhero films.

i think they are different genres to be quite honest ... the dark knight is a film that requires a great story and superb performances ... really, the majesty of heath ledger's jokers performance made that film imo ... the avengers is pure hollywood fluff where story is secondary ... it's the effects and writing that make this movie ...

it's really about building up action sequences that make its mark and this film does it really well ...

Maybe the same genre just that the Batman movies raised the level of the genre? and perhaps that in turn did change the genre, so any superhero movie that does not match it for quality acting, story etc ends up being just Hollywood fluff.

I am looking forward to the New Superman Movie, I hope it's not just Hollywood fluff!

[Idris]

Batman kicks the shit out of the avengers.

Yea I'll probably catch it on Blu Ray,

[Idris]

really, the majesty of heath ledger's jokers performance made that film imo ... the avengers is pure hollywood fluff where story is secondary ... it's the effects and writing that make this movie ...

it's really about building up action sequences that make its mark and this film does it really well ...

yea you know what my problem is? I expect all superhero movies to be as good as the comic books are. Like the X-Men movies get a major thumbs down, (with the exception X-Men 'First Class' which I thought was good),

Have you seen 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes'? I guess that is a superhero movie too (In a way) or at least in the same group as what the Batman movies have become.

[polaris_x]

yea you know what my problem is? I expect all superhero movies to be as good as the comic books are. Like the X-Men movies get a major thumbs down, (with the exception X-Men 'First Class' which I thought was good),

Have you seen 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes'? I guess that is a superhero movie too (In a way) or at least in the same group as what the Batman movies have become.

that's one of the older ones? ... can't recall ...

[81]

i wouldn't call Rise of the Planet of the apes a superhero movie....more like science fiction. it wasn't even good.

i thought the orginal x men was solid. stopped watching them after like the 3rd movie in the chain.

[Idris]

i wouldn't call Rise of the Planet of the apes a superhero movie....more like science fiction. it wasn't even good.

i thought the orginal x men was solid. stopped watching them after like the 3rd movie in the chain.

It's interesting cause I think most movies are crossing genres these day's. IMDB classes The Avengers as SciFi/Adventure/Action. Apes is SciFi/Drama. Personally I loved 'Rise of the Apes' (It's the Latest one Polaris).

For me the first X men was good for about the first 30 minutes. Of course movies can be subjective. I do tend to base things off of how do they compare to the 'source material', the X-men movies were far away from the comics. When you make Wolverine 6'0, you almost ruin his entire character. He's like 5'3"-5'5" in the comics. I'm sure people will disagree with me on that making a difference at all. But it's the little things that tend to add up. (I always thought Eddie Vedder would make a cool Wolvie

[81]

i don't read comics so not of that is a worry to me....i get that it is to some.

but no way are the apes a superhero....scifi for sure, and yeah, i can get the drama. smidge of action. i assume they are setting up for a second ape movie where we get a human ape war.

[Idris]

i don't read comics so not of that is a worry to me....i get that it is to some.

but no way are the apes a superhero....scifi for sure, and yeah, i can get the drama. smidge of action. i assume they are setting up for a second ape movie where we get a human ape war.

Yea probably not 'superhero' in the classical sense. But they were super and very heroic.

I think they may do another apes film, Human/Ape war or maybe a disease kills off most of the human race, Remember by the end of the movie humans were dying from a virus that they engineered themselves.

The second movie may be the apes building a society. I dunno, anyway
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Hulk Vs Superman

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbizTBYs-rQ

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=BbizTBYs-rQ&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_873098&v=CDBNB2hk5t0

Pretty Cool, just passing it along for fans of animation,

[polaris_x]

It's interesting cause I think most movies are crossing genres these day's. IMDB classes The Avengers as SciFi/Adventure/Action. Apes is SciFi/Drama. Personally I loved 'Rise of the Apes' (It's the Latest one Polaris).

For me the first X men was good for about the first 30 minutes. Of course movies can be subjective. I do tend to base things off of how do they compare to the 'source material', the X-men movies were far away from the comics. When you make Wolverine 6'0, you almost ruin his entire character. He's like 5'3"-5'5" in the comics. I'm sure people will disagree with me on that making a difference at all. But it's the little things that tend to add up. (I always thought Eddie Vedder would make a cool Wolvie

the latest one with james franco? ... it was ok - didn't really think too much of it to be quite honest and i would say it's a different kind of film ... i get your point about genres crossing lines ...

the avengers to me is a comic-book movie whereas dark knight was a graphic novel movie ... different vibes altogether ...

[81]

Especially given what a disastrous idea it seemed at first, not to mention the horrendously clunky title, Rise of the Planet of the Apes has a surprising staying power-- images like the unseen apes rustling in the trees, or the showdown on the fogbound Golden Gate Bridge, have stuck with me long after entire plots of other summer movies have escaped me entirely. Nearly a year later, the movie that looked like a surefire summer flop now has me anxiously awaiting a sequel, and though there's been little word of progress on it so far, we've got some good news to share today.

According to THR, screenwriter Scott Z. Burns has been given the job of writing the film's sequel, which will deal both with the titular rise of the apes and the virus that's destroying human society at the same time. All THR will confirm is that the apes are "on the path to emerge as society's new rulers," which if you've seen the original Charlton Heston movies, well, no duh. The genius in choosing Burns as a writer is that he's worked with Steven Soderbergh several times, including on last year's outbreak-centric Contagion. Plenty of us joked that the end credits to Rise of the Apes were a spoiler for the chillingly realistic Contagion, but now that Burns can use all that pandemic knowledge to beef up the Apes sequel, it seems like a perfect fit.

Writers of the original script Amanda Silver and Rick Jaffa also did a draft of the script, so it's unclear how much Burns will be changing. But with both Andy Serkis returning to play Caesar and director Rupert Wyatt back on board as well, the new Apes film seems to have all the potential of the first, and without the draggy presence of James Franco and Freida Pinto to weigh it down. Here's hoping Burns jumping on board means they're moving quickly toward a start date, and that some summer in the near future can entertain us by making us watch the human race die off-- fun!

[Idris]

the avengers to me is a comic-book movie whereas dark knight was a graphic novel movie ... different vibes altogether ...

I hear yeah,

[Idris]

the new Apes film seems to have all the potential of the first, and without the draggy presence of James Franco and Freida Pinto to weigh it down. Here's hoping Burns jumping on board means they're moving quickly toward a start date, and that some summer in the near future can entertain us by making us watch the human race die off-- fun!

Thanks,

(lmao so true, Franco and Pinto did weigh it down big time)

[Yefa]

this is solid hollywood fare ... those wanting the next citizen kane should look for it elsewhere ...

Agreed. That said, I don't think Christopher Nolan is making the next Citizen Kane either...with his Batman films or anything else that he has done.
Joss Whedon is a lifelong Marvel fan and that love of the characters comes through in The Avengers in a major way.

[RiotZact]

Saw it for a 5th time Thursday, 3 of the 4 cups

It's up to 4th all time now, just a few million away from harry potter. It crushed "blockbusters" Battleship and the dictator despite it being it's third week out and their first.