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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby norm » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:48 am

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Damn.


looks like 9 yrs $30mil


9 years? I am really surprised he would sign for that long.


yeah that's probably wrong but i'm piecing from twitter so...
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby norm » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:50 am

per jon heyman: Soler is expected to take a couple years before making big leagues. he's only 20. so NINE-yr deal makes sense. $30M total
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby Cliffy6745 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:51 am

Heyman says 9 years. I think that's a great deal.
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby Cliffy6745 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:41 pm

Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby 81 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:19 pm

Cliffy6745 wrote:Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.


Theo would sign you if he thought you could hit above the mendoza line. :lol:

I would expect the cubs to have alot of interest in every international FA. I'd be shocked if half this team is around next year at this time. They are so bad, the manger is saying they bad. :lol:
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby pureoc » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:04 pm

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Cliffy6745 wrote:Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.


Theo would sign you if he thought you could hit above the mendoza line. :lol:

I would expect the cubs to have alot of interest in every international FA. I'd be shocked if half this team is around next year at this time. They are so bad, the manger is saying they bad. :lol:



We pretty much don't have shit in the farm system except for Rizzo. Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters are only hitting in the .260's at AAA, and Vitters strikes out more than 1 per 4 AB's. Factor that in with the fact that there is a lot of old/bad contracts on this team, so they need to build up the farm with young guys. I'm fine with the move. Could it back fire, sure, but this guy is "projected" to be a 5 tool player, so it's worth the shot. I'd rather they be paying this kid the money than Soriano. This year is a write off, as well as next year and possibly 2014, so this kid will have plenty of time to get ready in the minors, and when he gets called up it may be on a team with low expectations.
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby cutz » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:15 pm

norm wrote:per jon heyman: Soler is expected to take a couple years before making big leagues. he's only 20. so NINE-yr deal makes sense. $30M total


I think Soler should've been in the Draft.
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby DS1119 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:55 pm

81 wrote:
Cliffy6745 wrote:Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.


Theo would sign you if he thought you could hit above the mendoza line. :lol:

I would expect the cubs to have alot of interest in every international FA. I'd be shocked if half this team is around next year at this time. They are so bad, the manger is saying they bad. :lol:



They need this guy. :lol:


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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby norm » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:05 pm

kings win and now this :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

The Dodgers and Andre Ethier are close to a completing an $85-million, five-year contract extension, CBSSports.com has learned.

Ethier's new deal includes a sixth-year vesting option.

The Ethier deal is the first big one for the new Dodgers regime led by Mark Walter, Stan Kasten and Magic Johnson. It is not believed to include a no-trade clause.

Ethier would have been eligible for free agency after this season but now will remain a Dodger through at least 2017. Ethier leads National League with 52 EBIs and has 10 home runs and a .292 batting average for the first-place team.

The Dodgers now have two of their "big three'' players locked up. They signed Matt Kemp to an eight-year, $160-million extension last winter.

The new ownership group is committed to winning and is expected to expand the payroll from $90 million, a low total for a big-market team. The Guggenheim group paid $2.15 billion for the Dodgers, completing that deal with Frank McCourt in late March.
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby 81 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:04 am

DS1119 wrote:
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Cliffy6745 wrote:Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.


Theo would sign you if he thought you could hit above the mendoza line. :lol:

I would expect the cubs to have alot of interest in every international FA. I'd be shocked if half this team is around next year at this time. They are so bad, the manger is saying they bad. :lol:



They need this guy. :lol:


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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby 81 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:05 am

Oh lawd! Jose Valverde may have done spit into his mitt! Surely it's a sign of the apocalypse! Quick, send the owners to shelter. Light the Selig Signal. Make the game adopt gloves and balls that change colors when a foreign substance is absorbed. And for God's sake, someone find the asterisk and tell him the record books have a spot for him.

Come on, folks, let's have a little perspective here. A pitcher spitting into his mitt is nothing new, scandalous, or even the best way to doctor a baseball. Why, with all the advances in ball doctoring technology available to today's modern player, hocking a loog on a baseball is like trying to kill an antelope with a sharp stick. I know we love to blow the Internet up with a good cheater story, especially one broadcasted by a hyper-attention craved player's wife, but this is hardly cause to unleash the fail whale.

Every bullpen bag — the kind you see rookie relievers carting out to the pen pregame — is stocked with goodies that help ensure the Eddie Harris' of the world still have a fighting chance when they take the bump. I'm talking creams that make the ball spin, drop, stick, roll over and play dead.
What's in that bag? Sunscreen combined with rosin, a mixture that produces on-the-fly finger Fixodent. Firm Grip, found in every training room, makes the ball hang from your finger tips. Well rubbed in shaving gel gives a little extra tack, but no so much that your hands suck up dirt and dust like chicken getting battered for deep-fry.

Vaseline does the opposite. The ball slides out of your hand like a splitter and drops significantly more. If vaseline is too advanced for you, try Skin Lube, it's the gunk trainers stick under tape wraps so players don't chafe while playing. It doesn't gleam like vaseline so you can smear it under your cap brim without worry.

Umps really watching you? Try Cramergesic or Red Hot. Burns a little, but it also leaves a nice slime in its wake. If you get asked about it, you can say it's medicinal. Plus, a mixture of lube and sweat works far better than spit or snot … unless you prefer snot, in which case, rub a little Red Hot in your nose and get it running good. Just don't get it in your eyes or you'll leave the game in tears regardless of your performance.

Finally, there is always AstroGlide, or good old KY ... trust me, someone in the locker room has it in their locker.

Did Valverde use the spitball technique? Maybe he did. But maybe he didn't. But who cares? I might have a bias for the boys on the mound since my own short career was one of doing everything I could to survive out there, but it's not like "putting a little something extra" on a pitch is a new thing. It's not even something to get upset about, even if we knew for absolute certain it was a cheating tactic.

Most of the time, pitchers try to keep the ball clean so we can control what it's doing better from a default setting. That's the thing about throwing doctored pitches: They're advanced forms of the art. I respect a guy who can make a ball dance when it's got a foreign element on it. Goodness knows it's hard enough to make it do what you want when all conditions are perfect, but it's flat out masterful when you can make it dance covered in Vagisil or Crisco.

If you insist it's cheating, that's fine, I can take it. But just so you know, some of the greatest pitchers of our time were excellent cheaters. Not every pitch, mind you. Maybe one pitch here, one pitch there; just enough to make sure it was in the mind of the hitter. After all, sometimes the best pitch in your repertoire is the one you never throw.

If I were Valverde, I'd take this little Internet meme he's got going on and play it all the way up because distraction, doubt and suspicion are really the best doctoring agents of them all.

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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby The Fixer » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:49 pm

harper just hit a missle. I can't stand him but he is gonna be pretty awesome
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby Cliffy6745 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:55 pm

The Fixer wrote:harper just hit a missle. I can't stand him but he is gonna be pretty awesome


That was a shot. He and Trout are going to be a lot of fun to watch for a long time. I just hate the damn Angels.
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby cutz » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:17 pm

Cliffy6745 wrote:
The Fixer wrote:harper just hit a missle. I can't stand him but he is gonna be pretty awesome


That was a shot. He and Trout are going to be a lot of fun to watch for a long time. I just hate the damn Angels.



I saw Trout play a couple of times in Highschool, and i saw Harper in Single-A. BOTH are scary good already.
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Re: MLB 2012 Season

Postby SVRDhand13 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:41 pm

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