State of emergency declared in Baghdad

[rightondude]

Woohoo another party in Iraq... how surprising...

They should serve popsicles in the streets of Iraq....that'll save more lives than any soldier can at this point...

[inmytree]

Well that wouldn't meet your standard of "the death and destruction will continue"



Well that wouldn't meet your standard of "the death and destruction will continue"



And what do they have to broker?



How would this stop the civil war you mention, other than by turning it into an international war?



What would those other countries do?



To stop holding "death and destruction" as a standard.

lets start again...I feel there is currently a civil war going on in Irak...until something is done to stop this current civil war...death and destruction will continue...that was my point...as for addressing it, I made a couple of suggestions perhaps stop it eventually...granted they may not be the best suggestings...and yes, I'm glad to see you recognized a couple were tounge and cheek...good work...

let see: broker...that means work about an agreement to not kill each other...

other countries may come in and not tell the Iraqis what to do with their country...have you heard of the concept of mediation...? from what I understand it works...

let me ask you this...what do you suggest..? do you have any...?

[farfromglorified]

let see: broker...that means work about an agreement to not kill each other...

And what do they have to agree about?

other countries may come in and not tell the Iraqis what to do with their country...have you heard of the concept of mediation...? from what I understand it works...

What interest do the sides have in mediation? What do the mediators have to offer them?

let me ask you this...what do you suggest..?

To judge the situation based on the Iraqi's ability to live and build, rather than their ability to die and destroy.

[inmytree]

To judge the situation based on the Iraqi's ability to live and build, rather than their ability to die and destroy.

what does this mean...? could you expand and enlighten..?

[Eliot Rosewater]

In a land like Iraq, there will be no such thing as the majority will rule unless America establishes a democracy there.

You cannot be serious. America can't even keep a real democracy in America.

[farfromglorified]

what does this mean...? could you expand and enlighten..?

It means exactly what it says. Why focus on those that are fighting and dying? Rather, we should focus on those who are not fighting and not dying. The solution to this war will extend from that.

The situation in Iraq should not be judged by a body count. Say for example that your body count gets to zero. No more people are dying. Congratulations. But you haven't asked the important question -- what are these people living for? To simply not die in a war??? Is that a standard of life?

The men attempting to build their businesses, the women attempting to build schools, the people attempting to restore Iraq after two generations of disaster. Where are these people? Why are you not focusing on them, but rather the fools on all sides who believe that the only way to achieve is to destroy? What mindset do you support....the one that holds a zero as its highest standard or the mindset that holds a purpose as its highest standard?

[JasonVaritek]

Wow, yeah man. You're in touch.

It is clear freedom is on the march? Where?

Mission ALMOST accomplished? What was the mission, and how near to it is the US administration?

Picture this, Saigon, 1975, the embassy roof. Hueys buzzing, groaning under the weight of American evacuees as the VC take pot shots at the last oppressors to leave their soil.

Take that same picture, put it anywhere from now until next summer, put it in the Green zone, throw in some sand, but this time, add a caption underneath that image.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

I was kidding. I was trying to do my best Stephen Colbert impression. Iraq is a disaster and Bush Inc. is the cause.

[inmytree]

It means exactly what it says. Why focus on those that are fighting and dying? Rather, we should focus on those who are not fighting and not dying. The solution to this war will extend from that.

The situation in Iraq should not be judged by a body count. Say for example that your body count gets to zero. No more people are dying. Congratulations. But you haven't asked the important question -- what are these people living for? To simply not die in a war??? Is that a standard of life?

The men attempting to build their businesses, the women attempting to build schools, the people attempting to restore Iraq after two generations of disaster. Where are these people? Why are you not focusing on them, but rather the fools on all sides who believe that the only way to achieve is to destroy? What mindset do you support....the one that holds a zero as its highest standard or the mindset that holds a purpose as its highest standard?

so you are railing on me because I'm calling the current Irak situation a civil war...? And since I'm calling it such, I'm only focusing on body counts..?

so according to you, the deaths of our soliders and iraqis should be ignored and we should focus the happy fun things going on...? ummm...Zero is the highest standard...Zero being nobody dies...

remind me again why we are in Irak...the war on terror, right...? which is based on killing those before they kill us...right..? therefore, isn't the war on terror based on Zero...Zero American deaths, right...so they don't come and kill us here on our soil...right...?

are we to ignore the death and disabled and only focus on buisness and schools...or should we do both...because if people are too afraid to leave home to frequent these business and homes...it won't matter...

if a person is blown up by a car bomb because they are a sunni or shot in the head because they are a sheite does it matter that a new bagel joint opened up on the corner...

I'm sorry you don't like the focus on reality...I guess focusing on lolliepops and butterflies makes things a bit easier for those who support this occupation...but sometimes...just sometimes...reality needs addressed...

[farfromglorified]

so you are railing on me because I'm calling the current Irak situation a civil war...? And since I'm calling it such, I'm only focusing on body counts..?

No..I'm "railing" on you because you said the situation will not be solved until "the death and destruction" are over, yet your solutions seem to revolve around the people doing the killing and destroying.

so according to you, the deaths of our soliders and iraqis should be ignored and we should focus the happy fun things going on...?

Yes, or more aptly, the potential "happy fun things"

ummm...Zero is the highest standard...Zero being nobody dies...

If zero is your highest standard, you'll get what you ask for. Nothing.

remind me again why we are in Irak...the war on terror, right...?

Supposedly, ok.

which is based on killing those before they kill us...right..?

Yes.

therefore, isn't the war on terror based on Zero...Zero American deaths, right...so they don't come and kill us here on our soil...right...?

Absolutley!!!! So why resort to their standards?

are we to ignore the death and disabled and only focus on buisness and schools...or should we do both...because if people are too afraid to leave home to frequent these business and homes...it won't matter...

But you can't do both. Otherwise you simply contradict yourself.

if a person is blown up by a car bomb because they are a sunni or shot in the head because they are a sheite does it matter that a new bagel joint opened up on the corner...

Perhaps it gives someone a reason to do something other than shoot people based on their religious tendencies.

I'm sorry you don't like the focus on reality...I guess focusing on lolliepops and butterflies makes things a bit easier for those who support this occupation...but sometimes...just sometimes...reality needs addressed...

Who supports this occupation?

[Commy]

LOL, ha ha ha. When left to govern themselves?!?!?! Do you even live on the planet Earth? Ever heard of Mogadishu, Beriut? It's the people who have military power are the ones who call the shots like they see.

In a land like Iraq, there will be no such thing as the majority will rule unless America establishes a democracy there.

Give me a break!

You're assuming the majority rules in America.

And that America actuallly brings representative democracies to countries it invades and destroys-still haven't seen a precedent for that one though...not sure why this would be any different.

[The Waiting Trophy Man]

what could possibly be going on in baghdad for them to declare a state of emergency?? :confused:

[inmytree]

No..I'm "railing" on you because you said the situation will not be solved until "the death and destruction" are over, yet your solutions seem to revolve around the people doing the killing and destroying.

you seem

Yes, or more aptly, the potential "happy fun things"

to

If zero is your highest standard, you'll get what you ask for. Nothing.

ignore

Supposedly, ok.

the entire

Yes.

point

Absolutley!!!! So why resort to their standards?

of posts

But you can't do both. Otherwise you simply contradict yourself.

by breaking

Perhaps it gives someone a reason to do something other than shoot people based on their religious tendencies.

every sentence down as

Who supports this occupation?

as single point which makes it impossible to make a point...

[farfromglorified]

you seem



to



ignore



the entire



point



of posts



by breaking



every sentence down as



as single point which makes it impossible to make a point...

So in other words your sentences have no relation to your point?

[IndianSummer]

it should have been declared the day bus became presi-dent.

[inmytree]

So

in what context...?

in

out..

other

other what, you're not making sense here...

words

when several groups of words are put together they make a point however if someone wants to ingore the overall point and break down each word, phrase, sentence it tends to take the orginal point our to context but it seems it's easier for some to break down things sentence for sentence perhaps due to not being able to understand a large point and too many words are confusing...

your

yes, mine..

sentences

see above...

have

you are losing me here, do you have a link to back this up...

no

I guess we have to agree to disagree...

relation

do you mean "kin"....?

to your point?

I wonder if you can understand my point...?