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farfromglorified wrote:Well that wouldn't meet your standard of "the death and destruction will continue"
Well that wouldn't meet your standard of "the death and destruction will continue"
And what do they have to broker?
How would this stop the civil war you mention, other than by turning it into an international war?
What would those other countries do?
To stop holding "death and destruction" as a standard.
inmytree wrote:let see: broker...that means work about an agreement to not kill each other...
other countries may come in and not tell the Iraqis what to do with their country...have you heard of the concept of mediation...? from what I understand it works...
let me ask you this...what do you suggest..?
inmytree wrote:what does this mean...? could you expand and enlighten..?
danmac wrote:Wow, yeah man. You're in touch.
It is clear freedom is on the march? Where?
Mission ALMOST accomplished? What was the mission, and how near to it is the US administration?
Picture this, Saigon, 1975, the embassy roof. Hueys buzzing, groaning under the weight of American evacuees as the VC take pot shots at the last oppressors to leave their soil.
Take that same picture, put it anywhere from now until next summer, put it in the Green zone, throw in some sand, but this time, add a caption underneath that image.
farfromglorified wrote:It means exactly what it says. Why focus on those that are fighting and dying? Rather, we should focus on those who are not fighting and not dying. The solution to this war will extend from that.
The situation in Iraq should not be judged by a body count. Say for example that your body count gets to zero. No more people are dying. Congratulations. But you haven't asked the important question -- what are these people living for? To simply not die in a war??? Is that a standard of life?
The men attempting to build their businesses, the women attempting to build schools, the people attempting to restore Iraq after two generations of disaster. Where are these people? Why are you not focusing on them, but rather the fools on all sides who believe that the only way to achieve is to destroy? What mindset do you support....the one that holds a zero as its highest standard or the mindset that holds a purpose as its highest standard?
inmytree wrote:so you are railing on me because I'm calling the current Irak situation a civil war...? And since I'm calling it such, I'm only focusing on body counts..?
so according to you, the deaths of our soliders and iraqis should be ignored and we should focus the happy fun things going on...?
ummm...Zero is the highest standard...Zero being nobody dies...
remind me again why we are in Irak...the war on terror, right...?
which is based on killing those before they kill us...right..?
therefore, isn't the war on terror based on Zero...Zero American deaths, right...so they don't come and kill us here on our soil...right...?
are we to ignore the death and disabled and only focus on buisness and schools...or should we do both...because if people are too afraid to leave home to frequent these business and homes...it won't matter...
if a person is blown up by a car bomb because they are a sunni or shot in the head because they are a sheite does it matter that a new bagel joint opened up on the corner...
I'm sorry you don't like the focus on reality...I guess focusing on lolliepops and butterflies makes things a bit easier for those who support this occupation...but sometimes...just sometimes...reality needs addressed...
NCfan wrote:LOL, ha ha ha. When left to govern themselves?!?!?! Do you even live on the planet Earth? Ever heard of Mogadishu, Beriut? It's the people who have military power are the ones who call the shots like they see.
In a land like Iraq, there will be no such thing as the majority will rule unless America establishes a democracy there.
Give me a break!
farfromglorified wrote:No..I'm "railing" on you because you said the situation will not be solved until "the death and destruction" are over, yet your solutions seem to revolve around the people doing the killing and destroying.
farfromglorified wrote:Yes, or more aptly, the potential "happy fun things"
farfromglorified wrote:If zero is your highest standard, you'll get what you ask for. Nothing.
farfromglorified wrote:Supposedly, ok.
farfromglorified wrote:Absolutley!!!! So why resort to their standards?
farfromglorified wrote:But you can't do both. Otherwise you simply contradict yourself.
farfromglorified wrote:Perhaps it gives someone a reason to do something other than shoot people based on their religious tendencies.
farfromglorified wrote:Who supports this occupation?
farfromglorified wrote:to your point?
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