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Whats going wrong with the world? More shootings

Postby Fifi_Ireland » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:38 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492

I was reading about the latest in unreal shootings at the Batman movie in Aurora and it just makes me so sad. This follows the Anders Brevik shootings in Norway, people are now just walking into random places and killing innocent people all around them showing no emotion.

While I appreciate these things are still unusual and rare, does anyone else feel like common decency is dissappearing and a lack of respect for people around you and a lack of values is causing more deaths and violence all about the place.

We recently had a Swedish House Mafia concert in Dublin and by the end of the event 9 people had been stabbed, 3 died of overdoses, there were brawls of up to 50 people in the streets, people were arrested for indecent behaviour for actually having sex in the middle of the food area (more than one set of people). This was unheard of, and yet no one was really that surprised because the way 'younger' people are acting at the moment it was only a matter of time (not all young people and no i'm not 100)

I would consider myself quite liberal about most things but the loss of 'please' and 'thank you' from common vocabulary is the start of the end as far as I'm concerned. People dont seem to have time to smile and say thank you any more or to step back and allow someone through the door in front of them or to hold it open for the person coming behind them. People nearly look surprised and suspicious when you hold a door open these days.....

anyway sorry about the ramble but it just makes me so sad that we have reached a point where some people hold others lives in their hands and consider them worthless!
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Postby Godfather. » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:41 am

very sad !! my thoughts and prayers to all involved.

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Postby know1 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:02 am

There is a segment of the population (a seemingly growing segment) that just seem to want to be noticed for doing something dramatic. The shootings are very sad and extreme examples of that, but I see people quite often now who just do obnoxious, loud, discourteous things. I really think it's somewhat tied to being starved for attention.

I also think it's tied to the fact that you can't access news and media these days without every story being about the "best", "worst", "longest", "oldest" whatever. It seems everything has to be sensational.
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Postby charlotta02 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:12 am

It's terrible :-(
It's very hard to understand these kind of things, it's so unreal.
Even if it's easy to hate these monsters I can't help wonder what has happend with these sad souls earlier in their lives. How can anyone find meaning in killing innocent people in this way? Has something happened in the childhood or are they born to be evil...?
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Postby pandora » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:13 am

Hearing of this it seemed very different than other mass shootings.
Very much more of a break with reality for the gunman as compared to a payback
but waiting to hear more about this young man of 24.

As things worsen for many and more division occurs, more disillusionment,
will we see personal frustration manifest in payback to society by way of lashing out?

I hear it in some young peoples voices, they are pissed.
Add depression, drug use, mental illness untreated
and the all important example of others doing just this, mass killing...

This young man was 12 or so when Columbine happened in his backyard.
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Postby catefrances » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:44 am

this is your 2nd ammendment in practice.. congratulations america.
Now what we have to understand is that this comes from an extremely clever and skillful program, that has manipulated us into ways of thinking that may be contrary to our own interests, but beneficial to the interests of the powers that be... beneficial to the interests of those who control our lives, and tax us until we have hardly a penny left to spend, take our money, and plough it into the creation of huge, armed bureaucracies, which exist to oppress us. We live in a society today where we may not make decisions, to explore our own consciousness. If I am not sovereign over my own consciousness, then I am sovereign over nothing.



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Postby g under p » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:50 am

Unfortunately, this WILL continue in the US and far more frequently than one of the first mass shootings at the Texas University tower in 1966.

Here's a short list of other mass shootings in the US,
10 U.S. Mass Shootings Involving High-Capacity Ammunition Magazines

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Postby pandora » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:59 am

Yes worldwide

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns- ... 1812.story

Timeline: Mass shooting incidents in last 25 years

(Reuters) - Here is a timeline of some of the worst shooting incidents carried out by one or two gunmen around the world in the last 25 years:

March 13, 1996 - BRITAIN - Gunman Thomas Hamilton burst into a primary school in the Scottish town of Dunblane and shot dead 16 children and their teacher before killing himself.

April 28, 1996 - AUSTRALIA - Martin Bryant unleashed modern Australia's worst mass murder when he shot dead 35 people at the Port Arthur tourist site in the southern state of Tasmania.

April 1999 - UNITED STATES - Two heavily-armed teenagers went on a rampage at Columbine High School in Littleton, Denver, shooting 13 students and staff before taking their own lives.

July 1999 - UNITED STATES - A gunman killed nine people at two brokerages in Atlanta, after apparently killing his wife and two children. He committed suicide five hours later.

June 2001 - NEPAL - Eight members of the Nepalese Royal family were killed in a palace massacre by Crown Prince Dipendra who later turned a gun on himself and died few days later. His youngest brother also died later raising the death toll to 10.

April 26, 2002 - GERMANY - In Erfurt, eastern Germany, 19-year-old Robert Steinhauser opened fire after saying he was not going to take a math test. He killed 12 teachers, a secretary, two pupils and a policeman at the Gutenberg Gymnasium, before killing himself.

October 2002 - UNITED STATES - John Muhammad and Lee Malvo killed 10 people in sniper-style shooting deaths that terrorized the Washington, D.C., area.

April 16, 2007 - USA - Virginia Tech, a university in Blacksburg, Virginia, became the site of the deadliest rampage in U.S. history when a gunman killed 32 people and himself.

November 7, 2007 - FINLAND - Pekka-Eric Auvinen killed six fellow students, the school nurse, the principal and himself with a handgun at the Jokela High School near Helsinki.

September 23, 2008 - FINLAND - Student Matti Saari opened fire in a vocational school in Kauhajoki in northwest Finland, killing nine other students and one male staff member before killing himself.

March 11, 2009 - GERMANY - A 17-year-old gunman dressed in combat gear killed nine students and three teachers at a school near Stuttgart. He also killed one other person at a nearby clinic. He was later killed in a shoot-out with police. Two additional passers-by were killed and two policemen seriously injured, bringing the death toll to 16 including the gunman.

June 2, 2010 - BRITAIN - Gunman Derrick Bird opened fire on people in towns across the rural county of Cumbria. Twelve people were killed and 11 injured. Bird also killed himself.

April 9, 2011 - NETHERLANDS - Tristan van der Vlis opened fire in the Ridderhof mall in Alphen aan den Rijn, south of Amsterdam, killing six before turning the gun on himself.

July 22, 2011 - NORWAY - Police seize a gunman who killed 69 people at a youth summer camp of Norway's ruling political party, on the small, holiday island of Utoeya. Anders Behring Breivik is later charged with the killings, as well as with an earlier bombing in Oslo which killed eight people. The trial ended last month with Breivik saying that his bombing and shooting rampage was necessary to defend the country - prompting a walk-out by relatives of his victims.

December 13, 2011 - BELGIUM - Gunman Nordine Armani killed three people, including a 17-month-old toddler, wounding 121 in a central square in the eastern city of Liege, before shooting himself. The next day Belgian investigators found the body of a woman in warehouse used by the gunman raising the death toll, including the killer, to five.

July 20, 2012 - UNITED STATES - A masked gunman killed 14 people and wounded 50 others when he opened fire on moviegoers at a showing of new Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" in the city of Denver.
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Postby unsung » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:37 am

How could this have happened? The theatre was a declared "gun-free" zone. I don't get it.
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Postby MotoDC » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:42 am

catefrances wrote:this is your 2nd ammendment in practice.. congratulations america.

Where is my knee-jerk emoticon...

Oh well this will have to do... :roll:
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Postby cincybearcat » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:43 am

unsung wrote:How could this have happened? The theatre was a declared "gun-free" zone. I don't get it.


Because our gun laws make it very easy for anyone to get a gun.
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Postby MotoDC » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:44 am

Anyhow, really tragic events. I feel for the families involved. Have they released any info about the shooter? The news this morning wasn't saying anything at all.

Also, somebody has to say it -- wtf Colorado? Columbine, now Aurora? And I feel like I'm forgetting another one too.
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Postby josevolution » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:45 am

So when is enough enough is this country when will the fuck heads up on Capitol Hill say enough and start to overhaul the gun laws in this country , Fuck the NRA fuck the rifles the assault weapons .......
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Postby Sludge Factory » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:48 am

catefrances wrote:this is your 2nd ammendment in practice.. congratulations america.


No, this was a criminal breaking the law.

This:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/18/fl ... e-robbery/

is the 2nd amendment in practice.
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