Ron Paul collects social security....

[gimmesometruth27]

fucking hypocrite... why should the rest of us forego the opportunity to use it in our retirement if it is ok for you to use it???? if it is unconstitutional, why is your hand in the fucking cookie jar???? please defend that and justify that to the rest of us....i for one, am waiting....


Ron Paul Collects Social Security

http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-collects ... itics.html

Even though he wants younger generations to transition away from Social Security, the Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate says he receives checks.

"I do," Paul acknowledged in an MSNBC interview on Wednesday. When The Huffington Post's Sam Stein asked if Paul shouldn't set an example by declining the government benefit, Paul said no.

"Just as I use the Post office, too, I use government highways, you do that too, I use the banks," Paul said. "I use the Federal Reserve system, but that doesn't mean that you can't work to remove this. In the same way on Social Security, I am trying to make a transition. If I were 20 years old and was offered the chance, I'd jump at it, and the young people are jumping at it because they know this is not solvent."

Paul, 76, has argued that Social Security and Medicare are technically unconstitutional. A major part of Paul's deficit-reduction plan has involved allowing younger Americans to opt out of Social Security.




please, reconcile that with your position and your principles....

[MookiesLaw]

Selective lamestream reporting at it's best.

No mention that Pauls Presidential Campaign included a vow that he will only take a salary of $39,336 - approximately equal to the median personal income of the American worker. No mention of the fact that Paul does not participate in the Congressional health care package or the pension system. He has opted out of both programs. No mention that Paul also said, that he is still paying into the plan at 76 years old and is receiving less in social security benefits than he is paying. No mention that he is doing here exactly what he has argued should be done.

He paid into SS his whole life and is eligible to receive the benefits and he should. What is more misleading is that it was not made clear that he wants kids to be able to opt out of SS if they want to because he knows the program will not be around in 50 years. He is not advocating for the destruction of SS, he feels it should be a choice.

lamestream also conveniently neglected to mention that Social Security wouldn't be the clusterfuck that it is, and would be solvent if corrupt congress would stop borrowing from it to fund never ending Wars. These same wars that Paul as the only anti-war candidate would stop.

[brianlux]

Selective lamestream reporting at it's best.

No mention that Pauls Presidential Campaign included a vow that he will only take a salary of $39,336 - approximately equal to the median personal income of the American worker. No mention of the fact that Paul does not participate in the Congressional health care package or the pension system. He has opted out of both programs. No mention that Paul also said, that he is still paying into the plan at 76 years old and is receiving less in social security benefits than he is paying. No mention that he is doing here exactly what he has argued should be done.

He paid into SS his whole life and is eligible to receive the benefits and he should. What is more misleading is that it was not made clear that he wants kids to be able to opt out of SS if they want to because he knows the program will not be around in 50 years. He is not advocating for the destruction of SS, he feels it should be a choice.

lamestream also conveniently neglected to mention that Social Security wouldn't be the clusterfuck that it is, and would be solvent if corrupt congress would stop borrowing from it to fund never ending Wars. These same wars that Paul as the only anti-war candidate would stop.

You do make some good points here MookiesLaw but with a net worth of $4.9 million (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/riches ... net-worth/) he could afford to turn it down and in doing so would he not have made a bigger, more accurate statement of being against it?

[DS1119]

These type of discussions are why I stay out of AMT.


Hi Brian! See you Montana. No political discussions that weekend.

[CH156378]

If you hate something, don't you do it too...too...

[brianlux]

These type of discussions are why I stay out of AMT.


Hi Brian! See you Montana. No political discussions that weekend.

You got it, DS!

[Smellyman]

and quit going to public shools, driving on roads, use any power, supporing military, call the police or fire dept., national forests and parks, public trasport, etc. etc. etc.

in fact boycott it all. Just stop paying taxes

[mikepegg44]

fucking hypocrite... why should the rest of us forego the opportunity to use it in our retirement if it is ok for you to use it???? if it is unconstitutional, why is your hand in the fucking cookie jar???? please defend that and justify that to the rest of us....i for one, am waiting....


Ron Paul Collects Social Security

http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-collects ... itics.html

Even though he wants younger generations to transition away from Social Security, the Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate says he receives checks.

"I do," Paul acknowledged in an MSNBC interview on Wednesday. When The Huffington Post's Sam Stein asked if Paul shouldn't set an example by declining the government benefit, Paul said no.

"Just as I use the Post office, too, I use government highways, you do that too, I use the banks," Paul said. "I use the Federal Reserve system, but that doesn't mean that you can't work to remove this. In the same way on Social Security, I am trying to make a transition. If I were 20 years old and was offered the chance, I'd jump at it, and the young people are jumping at it because they know this is not solvent."

Paul, 76, has argued that Social Security and Medicare are technically unconstitutional. A major part of Paul's deficit-reduction plan has involved allowing younger Americans to opt out of Social Security.




please, reconcile that with your position and your principles....

so hold on, when you have something taken out of your check and you are told it is part of your retirement plan, how is it hypocrisy to take the money you are entitled to? How is that hypocrisy?

you have got to be kidding me gimmie. you and I both know that this couldn't be more of a reach. He rejects the pension system that the congressmen take, which costs tax payers real money, also tell me why paying so much more than you will ever take out is hypocrisy? It was money taken from him that he is entitled to get back. He would have much rather kept it himself to begin with...

Tell me why wanting people to be able to opt out of the program is hypocrisy?



yep, pick out the only honest politician in the bunch and call him a hypocrite...no wonder we will never achieve any political success moving forward...say what you will about Paul and his policies, but hypocrite should never enter the discussion.

watch the interview...tell me it is hypocrisy

http://youtu.be/LHoIIT9yUbU

[Jason P]

I don't know if collecting on something you were forced to pay into is hypocrisy. A better example of hypocrisy is rattling off about paying a fair share, embracing Warren Buffet, and then pay a lower percentage in taxes then your secretary.

[unsung]

I'd rather he be a bit hypocratic than a straight out thief and liar.

I'd rather he take his SS contributions than my anointed one claim transparency, then block release of documents, or have kill lists with US citizens on it.

So yeah big picture take the money that was contributed over destroying the Constitution by expanding the PATRIOT Act and NDAA.

Personally I'd love to opt out of SS, but it won't happen because it'd be one less source for the crooks to steal from.

[cincybearcat]

He didn't have an alternative, he put money in. It's his $, no?

This seems rather silly and part of the reason we no longer have reasonable discussions in this country.

[cincybearcat]

fucking hypocrite...

Obama is a hypocrite to then, pretty sure all those vehicles he uses run on oil.

[brianlux]

fucking hypocrite...

Obama is a hypocrite to then, pretty sure all those vehicles he uses run on oil.

I wish this were more true than you're suggesting, cincybearcat. Obama has not been nearly strong enough on lowering CO2 levels in the atmosphere and helping get us off our oil addiction for us to call him a hypocrite that way. I'd love to see him come out stronger on emissions and I'd love to see the White House fleet converted to hybrids to set an example.

[cincybearcat]

fucking hypocrite...

Obama is a hypocrite to then, pretty sure all those vehicles he uses run on oil.

I wish this were more true than you're suggesting, cincybearcat. Obama has not been nearly strong enough on lowering CO2 levels in the atmosphere and helping get us off our oil addiction for us to call him a hypocrite that way. I'd love to see him come out stronger on emissions and I'd love to see the White House fleet converted to hybrids to set an example.

Well my point being that you can push for something while still relying on the old, available to you technology or program and not really be a hypocrite at all.

[pandora]

Ron is entitled to his social security, we all are.

What about all the fake disability out there those who are collecting social security years before
they are worthy.

So much waste and fraud of our taxpayer money ... Ron is legally entitled
go after those who are not.