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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby LiLiNY81 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:51 pm

BLACK35 wrote:I MIGHT BE THIS GUY TONIGHT, This has hit all to close to home, I just found out my 14 yr daughter was seduced and bascially raped by a 38 yr old man. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND GOING BALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO USE THIS FORUM SO i DONT END UP IN JAIL FOREVER
SHAKING SOMETHING PROFUSLY, I'M AN INCH AWAY FROM SNAPPING, I NEEED SOME HELP

Here's the thing...you would get charged (and maybe convicted) with pre-meditated murder. This guy walked in to it happening and reacted. No jury in their right mind(s) would convict him. If anything, it would be considered temporary insanity. Not worth it, dude. Let the law take care of him.

I'm so sorry this happened to your daughter, I can't even imagine the rage/hurt you're going through. The best thing you can do for your daughter is be there for her and get her the help she's going to need. Have faith in the justice system (and karma) and know that this guy will get his.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby BinauralJam » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:56 pm

BLACK35 wrote:Thanks for all the kind words everyone. UPDATE: THEY ARRESTED THE SCUMBAG THIS AFTERNOON. My hands to the police for the fast turnaround on this. He goes for a bail hearing tomorrow at 10:00, the officer doesn't believe the judge will grant him bail. So only makes me wonder what kind a record he has. I'll be there, I need to let him know that prison is probably the best spot for himself at the moment.
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so sorry this happened, praying for your family, You are a Good Man, hold on to it!
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby BLACK35 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:09 pm

Another very emotional day sitting in the court room. So they decided this motherf*cker can be let out under the control of his Assurities. I couldn't believe it. Even when the 2 aussurties spoke on the stand, our crown ripped the first guy apart and I thought, sweet, no problem, even he was shaking his head in the box. His wife (who doesn't live with him) said he has an alcohol problem, nice, another strike and she is someone that is vouching for him. ALL THIS BAD SHIT AND THEY STILL LET HIM OUT. The dumb crossed eyed bitch of a wife offered her ford focus as collateral, said it was worth $8000, would love to see this focus, maybe it would have been all the extra suspension she had to install to carry her fat ass. So he is confined to house arrest unless he goes to work at which point his assurity has to pick him up and drop him off. Can't leave his property unless either one of these approving assurities is with him, I figure its for protection or to be able to witness an impending assualt that may happen lol.
So this fucker for obivous reasons couldn't look at me or when he did he turned that slimy mellon of his, I gave him some pretty heavy death stares. I prolly lost 6 pounds in that court room today shaking. Once they found out why I was there, they kept a better eye on me. The cops were nice to me and understood my emotion, but all 3 of them came to me separatley and told me to remain calm. After the sentence I was escorted out nicely, I guess it was to make sure I didn't end up on the Court room's greatest brawls. Then when I leave in my truck out front, the fucker's daughter and crossed eyed bitch gum me as I'm leaving. SLAMMED on the breaks and there was a deciding moment that I came very close to getting out of my truck and doing I don't know what. Thankfully there was a cop who happened to be in the court room and he heard what they said and saw my reaction and told them another word, they were being arrested. He and I talked and on my way I went.
An unbelievable day of emotions, I can't describe how anger can take you over. I do commend myself for maintaining self control, cause it is taking every last ounce of me to hold on. I do think of what you have all said, and my wife, my parents and brother who has 2 young kids under the age of 5 and he says he isn't sure how I'm doing it. But they tell me I'm doing the right thing and I know Iam, but goddamit it don't feel like it.
Not sure if I mentioned in any of the other posts. But my daughter and his daugther are friends, thats how this clown met her and he also went to school with my wife back in the day. Thats what hurts her the most, she never thought he would do something like that, nobody would though right?
Anyways I will be watching him like a hawk and any sort of thing that I can catch him breaking his court conditions, I will be calling the cops. No alcohol at all and he has a problem so it hopefully shouldn't be hard to catch him.

Anyways I needed to vent a little, thanks all.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby Hugh Freaking Dillon » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:33 pm

jesus fucking christ. I don't know how you are maintaining control. I wouldn't condone violence on this guy, but man, in your shoes,I'd sure want to do it! So I get that.

Good for you, keeping your wits about you. It must be incredibly difficult. But it's the right move.

More power to you, good sir.

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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby BLACK35 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:44 pm

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:jesus fucking christ. I don't know how you are maintaining control. I wouldn't condone violence on this guy, but man, in your shoes,I'd sure want to do it! So I get that.

Good for you, keeping your wits about you. It must be incredibly difficult. But it's the right move.

More power to you, good sir.

Paul


Its very trying Paul, I cry, rage, pace, barely sleep, don't eat, I'm afraid of a heart attack cause my blood pressure is throught the roof, 142 over 80 yesterday, its everything. I cry as I type this, I need to break something, I need to get this rage out and I don't know how, well I do, just some people think its the wrong thing to do.
I really try and remember that I'm doing the right thing.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby BLACK35 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:47 pm

At this point PJ radio is very soothing for me, its helping to bring calm to me.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby mikalina » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:05 pm

I cannot believe what I'm reading above... And this is justice for the innocent victim !!!. All you can do is stand by your daughter and make sure she gets any help needed.

I'm sorry about this horrific day you've gone through....
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby BLACK35 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:11 pm

mikalina wrote:I cannot believe what I'm reading above... And this is justice for the innocent victim !!!. All you can do is stand by your daughter and make sure she gets any help needed.

I'm sorry about this horrific day you've gone through....


Even the judge said that he has to put aside his personal feeling on matters such as this and go with what the law states. I'm thinking make a statement of your own. The judge said that if the public knew what the charges were, they would be quite upset over this, again, then hold him. I guess if he was denied bail today, that was it, he stays in the can until trial. I know there is gonna be some pretty decent evidence to bring forward, so I'm confident that he will be going away, it just may take 1 YEAR, thats what one of the people working on our case for us said.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby hedonist » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:17 pm

Oh man, I commend you too.

This has been in my head and heart since you first posted.

Please know there are many pulling for your family and now knowing the relationship between your and his daughters, I will be wishing his daughter eventual peace as well.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby BLACK35 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:22 am

hedonist wrote:Oh man, I commend you too.

This has been in my head and heart since you first posted.

Please know there are many pulling for your family and now knowing the relationship between your and his daughters, I will be wishing his daughter eventual peace as well.


His daughter doesn't know the facts yet and is blaming our daughter and already try to confront her the day before and the same one that mouthed me off. Our son went out for supper last night (he is 20) and his friend is a bartender at the place he goes to. Making small talk with her and she proceeds to say to our that she had a horrible day as she had to bail her dad out of jail because some 14 yr skank has charged him with rape (her words) I guess Josh lost it and tossed the bar stool across the bar, few more words exchanged and he left cause he thought that might be best.
I don't feel I need to defend my daughter, but lets just say, it has been proven, she never had sex prior to this.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby dasvidana » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:15 pm

What an absolute nightmare! I agree with the suggestion of getting a restraining order against him and if possible, maybe even his family members. If his kids are bad-mouthing your daughter, then who knows if they, too, might snap and do something violent against you or your family. If I were you, I'd try to get a restraining order ASAP. If that is not possible, then, I guess you have to be a pain in the judge's ass so that he prosecutes this shit hole to the fullest extent of the law.

Remember that kids can overcome traumatic events of childhood when they have at least one positive adult role model. You are and can continue to be that person. She will develop resilience by watching how you handle this situation. I admire how you've handled things up til now.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby Godfather. » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:45 am

I am so sorry to read about this, I wish you and your family well.

and as far the original topic ...the molester got what what he had coming and nothing less.


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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby Cosmo » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:37 pm

BLACK35 wrote:
mikalina wrote:I cannot believe what I'm reading above... And this is justice for the innocent victim !!!. All you can do is stand by your daughter and make sure she gets any help needed.

I'm sorry about this horrific day you've gone through....


Even the judge said that he has to put aside his personal feeling on matters such as this and go with what the law states. I'm thinking make a statement of your own. The judge said that if the public knew what the charges were, they would be quite upset over this, again, then hold him. I guess if he was denied bail today, that was it, he stays in the can until trial. I know there is gonna be some pretty decent evidence to bring forward, so I'm confident that he will be going away, it just may take 1 YEAR, thats what one of the people working on our case for us said.

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Petition for a restraining order to keep him away from your property, your daughter and yourself.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby hedonist » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:44 pm

I just read that the father won't be prosecuted.


...and Black, I hope you and your family are somehow getting through this time OK.
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Re: A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills hi

Postby JonnyPistachio » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:45 am

hedonist wrote:I just read that the father won't be prosecuted.


...and Black, I hope you and your family are somehow getting through this time OK.


Yup,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47882983#.T-HTEhfWa8A

"SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - A grand jury has declined to bring charges against a Texas father who said he beat to death a man who was attempting to sexually assault his 5-year-old daughter, officials said on Tuesday.

The father, whose name has not been released because he has not been charged with a crime, told police he heard his daughter's screams and ran to a secluded area where he found her under attack by Jesus Flores, 47, who worked for the family.

The father, 23, admitted to Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon and a Texas Ranger investigating the case that he beat Flores to death to protect his child during the incident earlier this month, authorities said.
The case received national attention and focused interest on exactly how far a person could go to prevent a violent crime from happening to a child.

"The Texas Rangers and the Lavaca County Sheriff completed an extensive investigation into the death of Jesus Flores, and the evidence showed that the use of deadly force was justified," District Attorney Heather McMinn said on Tuesday.

"The five year old had injuries consistent with what her father witnessed."

In the dramatic call to 9-1-1 the father made, he frantically tells the dispatcher, "I need an ambulance! This guy was raping my daughter, and I beat him up, and I don't know what to do!"
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