Drowned Out wrote:Punish the kid for the parent’s failings. Ok.
This is exactly it. It's not just the parent's failings, it's the child's as well. Clearly, we've learned that the parent doesn't think the child can do any wrong... even if they don't do their homework. Unfortunately, in life, lessons are sometimes taught the hard way. I don't call that process "punishment", I call it education.
Drowned Out wrote:Clearly, huh? What were the excuses? What do you know about what goes on in this kids’ home and personal life? How do you know the teacher isn’t full of shit and a good portion of these 'excuses' are legit, or due to the parent?
Yes, clearly. We don't know the excuses because they weren't included. But, I believe that they were most likely pretty extreme in order to get a "catastrophe" award. Further, since you're obviously completely sided against the teacher here - I'll ask you - what were the excuses? How do you know how ridiculous they were? How do you know whether they were so ridiculous they caused laughter from fellow students? How do you know the student didn't getting a kick out of making these excuses and getting attention and not doing her work? How do you know that the teacher didn't contact the Mom several times?
I'm not trying to pick on the student, I'm trying to say we don't know. You're clearly saying that you doubt the teacher and think she's making this up. I'm saying back to you - I don't see why she'd need to do that. Think incentives. Whereas, I do see why a student would make up ridiculous excuses like - an alien came down from the sky and destroyed my desk and that's why I don't have my homework.
Drowned Out wrote:I guess you make fun of the kid and get the class to laugh at her. Cause there are no other options for a ‘good’ teacher.
Perhaps the kid was "getting the class to laugh at her on her own" through her excuses? No one's getting the class to laugh at her. It was most likely a truth-filled award. She has ridiculous excuses for why her assignments are MIA. The teacher pointed it out. This "boo-hoo" nonsense is so wasted here.
Drowned Out wrote:This is the only point that attempts to justify what the teacher did, instead of just criticizing the parent. Do you really think this is going to turn into a situation where the other kids will push the daughter to excel and do her homework? Doubt it. They’ll either forget about it, or they’ll ostracize her. My guess is there will be a lot of catastrophe jokes made at her expense, for a long time to come. You don’t think there was a better way to handle this? As for your ‘didn’t call her a catastrophe’ comment….semantics. So you win the best new artist grammy….you’re not being called the best new artist, you’re just being given an award for it? Talk about deflection….
I think she'll probably make less crazy rationales for why she didn't do assignments. Otherwise, she probably would have kept doing it. Like I said, her Mom is a perfect example of someone running to the media to CATASTROPHIZE
a situation. And no offense, but you seem to be the perfect bait for her. Like Mother, like child.
Drowned Out wrote:I agree. But it still doesn’t excuse what the teacher did. None of your points do imo.
The teacher pointed out, in a tongue and cheek manner what the child did.
Drowned Out wrote:refusing to do homework - More speculation. How do you know the kid refuses to do homework?
Are you a defense attorney for the student? I wish I had people like you around when I had to tell my parents why I didn't hand in an assignment or got a bad grade.
I know it because the child's teacher says she didn't.
Drowned Out wrote:making up wild excuses for not doing such - We don’t know what the excuses are, and we don’t know if the teacher is exaggerating.
True, we don't. But, I see no reason whatsoever for the teacher to exaggerate. Think - incentives.
Drowned Out wrote:To be clear: I'm not sticking up for this parent, I'm sticking up for the kid
By sticking up for the kid you are sticking up for the parent. And further, the kid needs to learn somehow. Clearly, the parent is not going to teach the child. The teacher is trying, you may not like the method, but if you have a better method than become a teacher.