All that I mentioned in my post is relevant to 'regular folk'
pandora wrote:This true but we are speaking of just the regular folk ... the techies
the lay people as you call it.
I know many techies personally,
I think not a true hacker ... yet
they are always learning though
The true hackers you speak of are after the big stuff, like corporations, govt security,
etc... and often get paid for their work.
Petty crime, stalking, bullying is being done by the lay person. This the crime effectingmost people
on the internet. The crime mentioned in the thread.
Did you think I didn't know about IP addresses...
but thanks for the copy and paste there
- hiding your IP, tracking someone else's, etc. So you are in agreement that it's an easy thing to do and one could easily flaunt the law (should one require to post name, an address and IP number), whether one looks at the 'criminal' or 'victim' side. Though you call it 'petty' crime - not sure it always ends up 'petty'. Consequences of cyber crime can be quite dire and this law will do nothing to alleviate that - on the contrary.
I don't speak of 'true' hackers Pandora - you coined this. Hackers are hackers - all at different levels. The 'everyday/average' one will plant plant viruses in your computer, hack into your computer to get your bank details, your credit card details when you make purchases; he/she will know where to look to get your personal info (which will be damn easy with this bill), etc. They are NOT the 'mega' hackers as depicted in thrillers, criminal series, etc. - just skillful techies/or savvy internet users (with varying skill levels)
. Not difficult at all. Of course there are the 'big time' hackers or white hat hackers but you know we are not talking about those - not many like The Condor will be interested in Pandora or Redrock.
And I did think you didn't know much about IP addresses and how easy it was to track since you did say: "
One can track true identities, like IP tracing but most people can't do these types of checks..
(though you now seem to contradict yourself). I assumed that if you knew how things worked you wouldn't have stated something so incorrect. Maybe your techie friends can refresh your 'knowledge' on these matters.
AGAIN on point RR well done.
Some Tips On Cyber Bullying:Don’t respond.
If someone bullies you, remember that your reaction is usually exactly what the bully wants. It gives him or her power over you. Who wants to empower a bully? Don’t retaliate.
Getting back at the bully turns you into one and reinforces the bully’s behavior. Help avoid a whole cycle of aggression. Save the evidence.
The only good news about digital bullying is that the harassing messages can usually be captured, saved, and shown to someone who can help. You need to do this even if it’s minor stuff, in case things escalate. Talk to a trusted adult.
You deserve backup. It’s always good to involve a parent but – if you can’t – a school counselor usually knows how to help. Sometimes both are needed. If you’re really nervous about saying something, see if there’s a way to report the incident anonymously at school. *Block the bully*.
If the harassment’s coming in the form of instant messages, texts, or profile comments, do yourself a favor: Use preferences or privacy tools to block the person. If it’s in chat, leave the “room.” Be civil.
Even if you don’t like someone, it’s a good idea to be decent and not sink to the other person’s level. Also, research shows that gossiping about and trash talking others increases your risk of being bullied. Treat people the way you want to be treated. Don’t be a bully
. How would you feel if someone harassed you? You know the old saying about walking a mile in someone’s shoes; even a few seconds of thinking about how another person might feel can put a big damper on aggression. That’s needed in this world. Be a friend, not a bystander
. Watching or forwarding mean messages empowers bullies and hurts victims even more. If you can, tell bullies to stop or let them know harassment makes people look stupid and mean. It’s time to let bullies know their behavior is unacceptable – cruel abuse of fellow human beings. If you can’t stop the bully, at least try to help the victim and report the behavior.
From SAFETEENS.com http://www.safeteens.com/tips-to-stop-cyberbullying/
All can be done safely, effectively without this TUPID proposal. There's no need to have such a broad base law to to TRY and curb cyberbullying or any other internet abuse those steps above can and will be FAR more effective than this dream world proposal will ever accomplish.