Water guns banned, REAL guns, OK....

[USARAY]

you must know nothing about carrying or training no brainer a responsible gun owner knows when to use the gun duh i guess me and some others got to the antigun club with our opinion on their part in the crime cycle
i guess it makes ya think don't it

Check out my post regarding the opinion (rather more than an opinion - based on facts and every day workload) of a 'man of the law' about how more often than not a 'responsible' gun owner (what is that anyway? A person who has a licensed gun?) - like most carrying guns - is more likely to 'react' in a sudden and traumatic situation (ie being attacked in the street, etc.). 'Training', ie having a few sessions at a shooting range DOES NOT prepare you for 'real life' situations at all.

Edit: I see Hugh was quicker than me (good thing I didn't want to shoot him! ).

don't mess with him his hands are registered man no anyone gets a license thats a must training is different
now i know you don't get it and ya think gun enthusiasts are irresponsible don't you or not?

[Hugh Freaking Dillon]

I've also never really wrapped my head around the idea of "protecting my property". what the hell do I care to stick it out just to make sure someone doesn't damage my carpet? you're willing to die or even be injured or put your family at risk for STUFF?

maybe some people around here would rather die than have their reenk roink stolen, but not me. I'm getting the eff out of there.

[USARAY]

go back and read redrocks conversation with a cop.

ha lets not go off topic and talk about cops i've seen my share of inept damn some shoot dogs
as soon as look at them

um, if you read it you'd know it wasn't off topic at all, it was in direct relation to what you and some others are saying about carrying a gun and how it protects you.

so is this part of your issue, that you don't trust the police, so you think you need to do their job?

no man all the respect in the world for a good cop i have no issue i got a gun you got hands that will kill
sounds about equal man

[Hugh Freaking Dillon]

don't mess with him his hands are registered man no anyone gets a license thats a must training is different
now i know you don't get it and ya think gun enthusiasts are irresponsible don't you or not?

I'll answer my views on this even though it was directed at redrock. I don't believe all gun owners/enthusiasts are irresponsible, I just think it's inately egotistical to think that we can control a weapon such as a loaded gun and not have accidents.

responsible gun owner or not, just like a responsible driver, accidents can and DO happen. it's a fact.

[USARAY]

I've also never really wrapped my head around the idea of "protecting my property". what the hell do I care to stick it out just to make sure someone doesn't damage my carpet? you're willing to die or even be injured or put your family at risk for STUFF?

maybe some people around here would rather die than have their reenk roink stolen, but not me. I'm getting the eff out of there.

damage your carpet huh yeah i am my family is at risk if i don't stop the assholes
just like the story of a home invasion here i think you said in that case yeah good thing there was a gun
wtf

[USARAY]

don't mess with him his hands are registered man no anyone gets a license thats a must training is different
now i know you don't get it and ya think gun enthusiasts are irresponsible don't you or not?

I'll answer my views on this even though it was directed at redrock. I don't believe all gun owners/enthusiasts are irresponsible, I just think it's inately egotistical to think that we can control a weapon such as a loaded gun and not have accidents.

responsible gun owner or not, just like a responsible driver, accidents can and DO happen. it's a fact.

yeah you gonna ban cars too its no accident when some asshole shoots an innocent citizen dead
maybe that is ok with you not me if i'm around i will try to keep that from happening will you just watch
and call 911 instead of trying to stop crime your hands better be very quick against the guy with the gun

[Hugh Freaking Dillon]

I've also never really wrapped my head around the idea of "protecting my property". what the hell do I care to stick it out just to make sure someone doesn't damage my carpet? you're willing to die or even be injured or put your family at risk for STUFF?

maybe some people around here would rather die than have their reenk roink stolen, but not me. I'm getting the eff out of there.

damage your carpet huh yeah i am my family is at risk if i don't stop the assholes
just like the story of a home invasion here i think you said in that case yeah good thing there was a gun
wtf

I said property, not family. very different. of course I'll protect my family, but if we can get away and leave the house then I won't hesitate. stuff is just stuff.

I didn't say "good thing there was a gun". I said in this instance it seems like it helped the situation (only given the information provided), but the rest of my post also said there are just as many if not more instances where the gun hinders the situation, so to me it still doesn't make sense to own one.

[Hugh Freaking Dillon]

yeah you gonna ban cars too its no accident when some asshole shoots an innocent citizen dead
maybe that is ok with you not me if i'm around i will try to keep that from happening will you just watch
and call 911 instead of trying to stop crime your hands better be very quick against the guy with the gun

why is it that you have to go to the extreme that because I don't want to own a gun that I'm all of a sudden ok with innocent people dying? that's an incredible, not to mention offensive, stretch.

[USARAY]

I've also never really wrapped my head around the idea of "protecting my property". what the hell do I care to stick it out just to make sure someone doesn't damage my carpet? you're willing to die or even be injured or put your family at risk for STUFF?

maybe some people around here would rather die than have their reenk roink stolen, but not me. I'm getting the eff out of there.

damage your carpet huh yeah i am my family is at risk if i don't stop the assholes
just like the story of a home invasion here i think you said in that case yeah good thing there was a gun
wtf

I said property, not family. very different. of course I'll protect my family, but if we can get away and leave the house then I won't hesitate. stuff is just stuff.

I didn't say "good thing there was a gun". I said in this instance it seems like it helped the situation (only given the information provided), but the rest of my post also said there are just as many if not more instances where the gun hinders the situation, so to me it still doesn't make sense to own one.

thats your call and maybe someone with a gun might save your family one day
it happens

[USARAY]

yeah you gonna ban cars too its no accident when some asshole shoots an innocent citizen dead
maybe that is ok with you not me if i'm around i will try to keep that from happening will you just watch
and call 911 instead of trying to stop crime your hands better be very quick against the guy with the gun

why is it that you have to go to the extreme that because I don't want to own a gun that I'm all of a sudden ok with innocent people dying? that's an incredible, not to mention offensive, stretch.

no offense meant i am that opposed to the death of innocents that i will defend them
even if it meansi will die i learned from 911 about loyalty and banding together
to fight anyone who wants to hurtamerican or otherwise just proactive and not waiting around for a police car like i said early on maybe
all those hurt in the congress women shooting could have been saved well we know they could have

[goingtoverona]

Gimmie, your posts are my favorite out of everyones, what you said about guns only being made to kill is almost as asinine as when you said you would be killed by a gun owner for protesting outside the nra convention in your town. Again, there are thousands of people that don't hunt or kill people, that just like to shoot, like the shooting in the olympics has nothing to do with killing people or animals, but you don't want to hear that because it doesn't fit with your argument and hatred of guns and people who own them. But thanks for your posts, your extreme bias is very, very entertaining for me.

[unsung]

The right of the people to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT be infringed.

I just don't see how that is thought to be left open for definition. It's pretty clear to me.

[keeponrockin]

Good for you you are a man ...
do you feel women should not carry a gun in their purses for defense?

It's their choice, as it was mine.

[Hugh Freaking Dillon]

The right of the people to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT be infringed.

I just don't see how that is thought to be left open for definition. It's pretty clear to me.

everything should be open for discussion.

[unsung]

everything should be open for discussion.

Not by the Senate or House.

It technically is though in another way. The states could vote in another amendment. What are the odds of passage in your opinion?