polaris_x wrote:Monster Rain wrote:Do you even know the context the term "death panels" was first used? It was used by Sarah Palin describing a panel that would determine what would or wouldn't be paid for by the government. It may not have been accurate but it's also a far cry from claiming that the government would euthanize people. So people claiming that Palin or Fox News ever said that Obama's plan would force senior citizens to be judged by a death panel that determined if they lived or died misrepresented the quote. Does that make those people repsonsible for this woman's death since she clearly seemed to believe their interpretation of the quote? I'm guessing nobody who blames Fox News will also blame themselves.
yeah ... fed to her by a right wing think tank ... and then ran with by fox news ...
listen ... no one is saying fox news is to blame except the son in this case ...
but if you guys can't see how the PR and propaganda machine contributed to this woman's death - i'm not too sure what else to say ... we've already said that the woman and to a certain degree the family have to take personal responsibility ... but the fact is - she would have went to the doctor if she wasn't brainwashed into believing lies ... lies perpetuated by fox ...
Who equated "death panels" with euthanasia? Palin? I don't think so. She sai the government would refuse to pay for health care in some instances and referred to the people making those decisions as a "death panel" (and she used quotes when she wrote it). Somehow, that was reported as Sarah Palin claiming that the "death panels" would be euthanizing people, like in this article:
In a Facebook posting, the former GOP vice presidential candidate claimed that Obama's scheme will create a "death panel" promoting euthanasia.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-08 ... ealth-care
Now for Palin's quote:
The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.
That sounds to me like she was warning against the government rationing health care and there's no mention of euthanasia. So who was it that said "death panels" would equal euthanasia?