Trayvon Martin

[PJ_Soul]

Doesn't really mean anything. He still could have shot him in self defense, the wounds aren't makeup.

Well, it means that he's a liar ... and kind of a thief and a scammer. that isn't so helpful in court.

[gimmesometruth27]

Doesn't really mean anything. He still could have shot him in self defense, the wounds aren't makeup.

Well, it means that he's a liar ... and kind of a thief and a scammer. that isn't so helpful in court.

agreed. a jury is either going to or not going to identify with him based on his character. and almost all of the news about him lately paints him as dishonest and willing to lie to protect himself.

[usamamasan1]

Legal analysts speculate that Mrs. Zimmerman's arrest could be used as a tactic by the prosecutors to pressure her husband.

"They can always say, look, we won't prosecute your wife if you decide to plea to some sort of charge," legal analyst Mark Lippman told "Good Morning America" today. He added, "It seems pretty clear to me that this is not something they would do in a normal case."

[gimmesometruth27]

"It seems pretty clear to me that this is not something they would do in a normal case."

of course not. because all normal cases include sketchy laws like the stand your ground law, and a defendant who has set up a website to collect donated money to live on while awaiting trial and pay his legal fees, and a dumbass wife who is willing to purjure herself to conceal said money....

of course this is an extraordinary case. and the prosecutor is not playing around. the judge has already been duped once by zimmerman and his wife, and it is not gonna happen again.

don't lie to a judge, because if you get caught you can find yourself in jail for a long long time.

[usamamasan1]

don't lie to anyone.

[PJ_Soul]

don't lie to anyone.

Good rule to live by.

[Godfather.]

http://soundcloud.com/producermatthew/s ... il-house-1


Godfather.

[JonnyPistachio]

the Zimmermans are lying, deceiving pricks:

Prosecutors argued that the Zimmermans were speaking in code on the phone calls, which they knew were recorded — using $10 in their conversations to represent $1,000 — to mask the large transactions.
"In my account, do I have at least $100?" Zimmerman asks his wife in a conversation on April 16.
"There's, like, $8," she says.
"OK, so total, everything, how much are we looking at?" he asks.
"Um, like, $155," she answers.
In other conversations he instructs her to transfer increments of $10 from his account to hers and to the account of his sister, Suzie. He also tells her to pay off the bills, including a Sam's Club credit card, American Express and Walmart.
Prosecutors allege the couple was moving money out of an Internet PayPal account that they referred to as "Peter Pan," as it was flooded with donations, the Orlando Sentinel reported, citing prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda.

On Monday, prosecutors also released the couple's bank statements, showing a series of transfers between the PayPal account and their personal accounts, the Sentinel reported.
The couple made sure the transfers were under $10,000. Transactions of amounts larger than $10,000 within a given 24-hour period must be reported to the IRS.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... llege?lite

In the calls, Zimmerman asks his wife to buy bulletproof vests for the two of them and for defense attorney O’Mara, because of concerns for their safety in the racially and emotionally charged case.

"As uncomfortable as it is, I want you wearing one," Zimmerman told his wife. He was wearing a bulletproof vest when he left jail after posting bond later in April. O'Mara has reported receiving threats.

Maybe he should've told Treyvon to buy a bullet prof vest too. Too bad he wasnt as concerned for Treyvon as he is for his wife and lawyer.

[pandora]

Not how to win friends nor influence people...

Want to see someones true colors give them an unexpected windfall of cash.
People think they would be ethical, surprising how money, greed changes people,
lying being the least of all that.

[Jason P]

The police chief at the center of this was fired. Although he offered his resignation in April and the city rejected it. Now the city has to pay him severance.

Sounds like total political logic to me. This is what happens when you don't care about profit.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-chief-fired-over-trayvon-martin-shooting-101637029.html

[ComeToTX]

George Zimmerman's Reenactment of Trayvon Martin Shooting (VIDEO)

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmermans- ... ories.html

[norm]

In the months since the death of Trayvon Martin, the public has seen a steady stream of evidence and analysis. But most of that revealed little about the mind-set of his shooter, George Zimmerman.

For the first time last week, we heard Zimmerman, in his own words, explain to police what he said was going through his mind after he spotted the teen in his Sanford neighborhood Feb. 26.

His defense team released recorded interviews Thursday in which police question Zimmerman in the days after the shooting, before the controversial case drew any substantial media attention or public outcry, and before Zimmerman had a lawyer.

One thing is clear: To Zimmerman, it was not an isolated incident. It was the culmination of mounting concern and frustration about crime in the subdivision where he was Neighborhood Watch captain.

Prosecutors say the unarmed 17-year-old from Miami Gardens was an innocent victim of profiling. Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder, says he fired during a struggle for his life.

'Something was off about him'

In his video re-enactment for Sanford police the day after the shooting, Zimmerman explained why he found Trayvon suspicious.

Trayvon was in the yard of Frank Taaffe, a Neighborhood Watch buddy whose town house had recently been burglarized.

The teen was in the grass, not on the sidewalk, Zimmerman told officers.

"He was just leisurely looking at the house," Zimmerman said. "That's what threw me off. It's raining. I didn't understand why somebody would be just stopping in the rain."

Zimmerman drove past, he said, then parked a few feet away while he talked to a dispatcher on a police nonemergency line.

"I said, you know, it's better to just call," he said.

Trayvon walked past Zimmerman's pickup, looked at him then disappeared, Zimmerman said.

During the re-enactment, Zimmerman told officers the dispatcher asked whether he could re-establish eye contact with the teenager. A review of his call shows that's not true.

Zimmerman drove a short distance down the street and again spotted Trayvon, he said.

Trayvon "came down and circled my car. … He had his hand in his waistband," Zimmerman said during the re-enactment. Then Trayvon disappeared again, Zimmerman said.

One of the most debated questions about that night is: Why did Zimmerman get out of his pickup?

Zimmerman blames a question from the dispatcher and a bad memory. The dispatcher asked where Trayvon was and what direction he was headed, "and I could not remember the name of that street," Zimmerman said, "… then I thought to get out to look at a street sign, so I got out and started walking."

'On drugs. Why?'

For months, that nonemergency call to police, released March 16, has been the public's best glimpse into Zimmerman's state of mind.

Among the recordings released Thursday was an interview conducted three days after the shooting in which detectives asked Zimmerman what he was thinking and doing moment by moment during the call.

In it, Zimmerman said Trayvon looked like he's "on drugs or something."

"On drugs. Why?" asked Sanford police Investigator Chris Serino, after playing that portion of the call.

"Oh, because he just kept looking around, looking behind and looking, just kept shifting where he was looking," he told Serino.

When the dispatcher asked whether he was following Trayvon, Zimmerman answered that he was. But when questioned later by detectives, he said he was trying to get a better address for police.

"I was just going in the same direction he was," Zimmerman said.

Serino grilled Zimmerman on the discrepancy.

"It sounds like you're looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."

Detectives also played a 911 call, in which cries for help are audible. The issue of who was crying — Zimmerman or Trayvon — has been hotly debated.

"That doesn't even sound like me," Zimmerman said. It's unclear whether he was indicating that the voice might not be his, or just that his tone was so frightened he didn't recognize it.

'Just tonight?'

"I'm just going to keep quiet, and you tell me the story," Investigator Doris Singleton told Zimmerman, in an interview hours after the shooting. "You tell me what happened tonight."

Zimmerman's reply: "Just tonight?"

Zimmerman's account of the death of Trayvon Martin begins long before he ever encountered the teen.

In fact, he spent the first several minutes of the interview talking about a string of earlier events that he says led to the fatal encounter.

"The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes," Zimmerman said. "My wife saw our neighbors get broken into, and she was scared ... so I decided to start a Neighborhood Watch program in my neighborhood."

Zimmerman told Singleton that he had called police to report suspicious people multiple times, but "these guys always get away."

"I had called before, and the police had come out," he said later in the interview, "but these guys know the neighborhood very well, and they would cut in between buildings and lose ..."

Singleton interrupted: "You're saying these guys, who are these guys?"

"The people committing the burglaries," Zimmerman replied.

Zimmerman told Singleton that he knew every Retreat at Twin Lakes resident and had never seen Trayvon before Feb. 26.

Within minutes of that first encounter, the two were on the ground fighting. Zimmerman was bloodied, and Trayvon was killed. The question of who initiated their conflict is at the crux of the controversy.

Serino handed the case off to prosecutors recommending a manslaughter charge but made no arrest. Special Prosecutor Angela Corey has since charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... dispatcher

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Is this still an ongoing legal matter

[ComeToTX]

According to Zimmerman he thinks Trayvon is on drugs, he's circling his car and has something in his waistband? But he still gets out of his car. Right....

[Indifference]

Apparently passed a lie detector:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/geo ... tor-421395