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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby usamamasan1 » Tue May 15, 2012 7:29 pm

If Zimmerman wins his case, we can all learn something for the greater good.

Don't go around beating people to a pulp like a thug if your not prepared to die for your reckless actions at the hands of your victim

In theory
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby mickeyrat » Tue May 15, 2012 7:35 pm

usamamasan1 wrote:If Zimmerman wins his case, we can all learn something for the greater good.

Don't go around beating people to a pulp like a thug if your not prepared to die for your reckless actions at the hands of your victim

In theory

especially when your "victim" is following you.Against the advice of 911 operators.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Halifax2TheMax » Tue May 15, 2012 7:41 pm

usamamasan1 wrote:If Zimmerman wins his case, we can all learn something for the greater good.

Don't go around beating people to a pulp like a thug if your not prepared to die for your reckless actions at the hands of your victim

In theory


Don't go around "beating people to a pulp?" Why, Trayvon had a propensity or history or reputation or maybe even a criminal record for "beating people to a pulp?" I'd say, don't go around with a loaded gun in your waistband calling 911 everytime you see a shadow and let law enforcement do their job, observe and report, and maybe you wouldn't end up fearing for your life, wearing an ankle bracelet and being in denial about your psycological problems. And I thought Reagan taught us to not blame the victim? Skittles and ice tea, sure signs of thuggary.

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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby puremagic » Tue May 15, 2012 7:52 pm

Yet the video of Zimmerman being escorted into the police station an hour after the incident shows none of the reported phyiscal injuries alleged by the family doctor's report a day later. Zimmerman, even after being released by the police, who basically supported his claim under the Stand Your Ground law, still didn't go to a hospital. He was cleared, free to go home and have his family take him to the hospital, but he didn't.

Getting a medical report from a private doctor in Florida is cheaper than a small latte as long as you buy the pills from their sponsored clinic.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby gimmesometruth27 » Tue May 15, 2012 7:56 pm

usamamasan1 wrote:Some truth

You are off topic but, whatever...your off base too

"there is insufficient evidence that the Defendant reasonably believed deadly force was needed to prevent death or great bodily harm to herself," and that the fact that she came back into the home, instead of leaving out the front or back door "is inconsistent with a person who is in genuine fear for her life."

"Obviously, the jury believed the state's position, that she went into garage to get the gun and make a stand, and that's not going to be tolerated,"

Aggravated assault my brother

pray tell how am i off topic?? i provided a link to show that stand your ground is not always an appropriate defense and that it does not always get the defendant off. the lady in the story did not even shoot anyone, let alone murder anyone. and she got 20 YEARS for simply discharging the gun as a warning shot. she did not shoot to kill like barney fife did in this case.

in your second paragraph i can make the same argument that zimmerman would not have been in fear of his life had he not gone against dispatcher advice, had not pursued trayvon, and had not confronted him. how the hell can anybody argue stand your ground when the shooter/killer followed and confronted the shootee? you can not answer that so you accuse me of being off topic.

zimmerman is going to jail. either for murder or a lesser charge. but he is going to jail.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby usamamasan1 » Tue May 15, 2012 8:11 pm

You said he was guilty. Now you say a lesser charge. Hedging.

And the convicted felon you speak of...she didnt HIT anybody.

She also didn't shoot ceiling.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Blockhead » Tue May 15, 2012 8:18 pm

mickeyrat wrote:
usamamasan1 wrote:If Zimmerman wins his case, we can all learn something for the greater good.

Don't go around beating people to a pulp like a thug if your not prepared to die for your reckless actions at the hands of your victim

In theory

especially when your "victim" is following you.Against the advice of 911 operators.

Following isn't again't the law... Nor is it grounds to attack someone.
911 operators advice are not authority/law. Why bring them up?
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby brianlux » Tue May 15, 2012 8:20 pm

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Either way, don't know what I'm doing
If you follow me around with your tape recorder
I'm sure you'll get a load of footsteps"
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby gimmesometruth27 » Tue May 15, 2012 8:36 pm

brianlux wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/joe-scarborough-trayvon-martin-conservative-websites_n_1392019.html

Good article. I agree.

well punch me in the nuts...i agree with Joe Scarborough for the first time... i think he makes some excellent points here. good find brian, and thanks for sharing that.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby brianlux » Tue May 15, 2012 10:12 pm

gimmesometruth27 wrote:
brianlux wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/joe-scarborough-trayvon-martin-conservative-websites_n_1392019.html

Good article. I agree.

well punch me in the nuts...i agree with Joe Scarborough for the first time... i think he makes some excellent points here. good find brian, and thanks for sharing that.


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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby Jason P » Wed May 16, 2012 5:44 am

brianlux wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/joe-scarborough-trayvon-martin-conservative-websites_n_1392019.html

Good article. I agree.

It was a knee-jerk reaction after Obama opened his mouth early on.

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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby ComeToTX » Wed May 16, 2012 6:16 am

usamamasan1 wrote:If Zimmerman wins his case, we can all learn something for the greater good.

Don't go around beating people to a pulp like a thug if your not prepared to die for your reckless actions at the hands of your victim

In theory


Minding your own business before someone starts following you is reckless? You're aware he was unarmed, right?
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby ComeToTX » Wed May 16, 2012 6:19 am

gimmesometruth27 wrote:
brianlux wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/joe-scarborough-trayvon-martin-conservative-websites_n_1392019.html

Good article. I agree.

well punch me in the nuts...i agree with Joe Scarborough for the first time... i think he makes some excellent points here. good find brian, and thanks for sharing that.


He constantly reminds me how far right the rest of the conservative media has gone. I can actually watch him, understand his rationale and occasionally agree with him.
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby shadowcast » Wed May 16, 2012 7:33 am

puremagic wrote:Yet the video of Zimmerman being escorted into the police station an hour after the incident shows none of the reported phyiscal injuries alleged by the family doctor's report a day later. Zimmerman, even after being released by the police, who basically supported his claim under the Stand Your Ground law, still didn't go to a hospital. He was cleared, free to go home and have his family take him to the hospital, but he didn't.

Getting a medical report from a private doctor in Florida is cheaper than a small latte as long as you buy the pills from their sponsored clinic.

Yes they do show injuries to the back of his head and black eyes usally take up to 24-48 hours to really come in.

Injuries

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/en ... -injuries/
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Re: Trayvon Martin

Postby shadowcast » Wed May 16, 2012 7:41 am

brianlux wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/joe-scarborough-trayvon-martin-conservative-websites_n_1392019.html

Good article. I agree.


I think this is a gun issue as I do not think people should be allowed to carry a gun on them. At home fine.
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