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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby Idris » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:04 pm

inlet13 wrote:
polaris_x wrote:those are good points about the organization ... most charities need to be scrutinized a bit more ... it is why some of us here have said that although removal and capture of this man would be good thing - it still doesn't solve the underlying problems in africa ...



So, organizations like this should be scrutinized a bit before we go posting everywhere.

It seems to me there's a lot of problems with this organization. Yet, people are touting it everywhere (not just here). I've seen it all over the place. I think it's trending on twitter as we speak. It would be pretty sad if it's just another way to make money. The under workings behind this seems slightly similar to the military industrial complex and their voice in the states toppling other horrid leaders, just a new way to build popular support.


'invisible children'..visible propaganda.

People passing it around, spreading like an african wildfire.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby peacefrompaul » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:33 pm

inlet13 wrote:
polaris_x wrote:those are good points about the organization ... most charities need to be scrutinized a bit more ... it is why some of us here have said that although removal and capture of this man would be good thing - it still doesn't solve the underlying problems in africa ...



Right. I don't claim to know the ins and outs of this situation or the organization behind it. But, I do think there are many charities/organizations (certainly NOT ALL) out there that take advantage of situations, most people would see as problematic (Kony, cancer charities, etc). So, organizations like this should be scrutinized a bit before we go posting everywhere.

It seems to me there's a lot of problems with this organization. Yet, people are touting it everywhere (not just here). I've seen it all over the place. I think it's trending on twitter as we speak. It would be pretty sad if it's just another way to make money. The under workings behind this seems slightly similar to the military industrial complex and their voice in the states toppling other horrid leaders, just a new way to build popular support.


I am personally not endorsing the organization.... I haven't looked into it enough. I just want people to see what is going on over there. People need to understand what is happening in the world.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby Idris » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:50 pm

peacefrompaul wrote:I just want people to see what is going on over there. People need to understand what is happening in the world.


Yea of course...We also need to understand what is happening here at home. See what's going on here in our countries, with our leaders. 2 my mind, I feel that when we understand our own issues here, our foreign policy towards other nations (and why it is the way it is). When we get a better grasp on that, then maybe we can focus on other areas.

and of course once we understand our foreign policy a bit better, we should be able to see that (for example) WE are 'Joseph Kony' to other countries. Know what I mean? We want to fix the world? Or want to know what's going on around the world? Then perhaps we Focus on the 'foreign policy' that is the root cause of much of the worlds issues.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby fife » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:52 pm

Idris wrote:
peacefrompaul wrote:I just want people to see what is going on over there. People need to understand what is happening in the world.


Yea of course...We also need to understand what is happening here at home. See what's going on here in our countries, with our leaders. 2 my mind, I feel that when we understand our own issues here, our foreign policy towards other nations (and why it is the way it is). When we get a better grasp on that, then maybe we can focus on other areas.

and of course once we understand our foreign policy a bit better, we should be able to see that (for example) WE are 'Joseph Kony' to other countries. Know what I mean? We want to fix the world? Or want to know what's going on around the world? Then perhaps we Focus on the 'foreign policy' that is the root cause of much of the worlds issues.


While I agree that we also have to look at our foreign policy i do believe we also have to say that we have to see that many of the root causes of much of what is happening today has to do with greed and power.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby Jason P » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:02 pm

So, based on the overall sentiment, Uganda is screwed, right? Western influence has caused this problem, so I guess there is no way to fix it.

Or, how about we raise this issue to the world and allow Seal Team 6 and Bruce Willis to go take this asshole out. If the world carries out the death sentence, our drones will be more then glad to help out and ghost this horrible animal. It beats waiting for world policy to somehow make an instantaneous change.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby Idris » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:10 pm

fife wrote:
While I agree that we also have to look at our foreign policy i do believe we also have to say that we have to see that many of the root causes of much of what is happening today has to do with greed and power.


Right on, the foreign policy stems (based from) things like 'greed' 'ego' ignorance' 'power' etc.

I'm sure our foreign policy would look quite different if The Buddha wrote the policy and it was not written by power hungry oligarchs abusing positions they are in and twisting reality to manipulate people for greedy gains that in the long (and short) run do nothing to help the world, rather does everything to keep the world in a state of constant strife, perpetual war and then guise our own greedy involvement as acts of 'grace' and for 'general 'freedom' and/or for the 'betterment of humanity'.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby peacefrompaul » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:38 pm

Jason P wrote:So, based on the overall sentiment, Uganda is screwed, right? Western influence has caused this problem, so I guess there is no way to fix it.

Or, how about we raise this issue to the world and allow Seal Team 6 and Bruce Willis to go take this asshole out. If the world carries out the death sentence, our drones will be more then glad to help out and ghost this horrible animal. It beats waiting for world policy to somehow make an instantaneous change.


That was kind of my thought... Gather intel, track him down, seal (no pun intended) the deal.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby Idris » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:59 pm

peacefrompaul wrote:
Jason P wrote:So, based on the overall sentiment, Uganda is screwed, right? Western influence has caused this problem, so I guess there is no way to fix it.

Or, how about we raise this issue to the world and allow Seal Team 6 and Bruce Willis to go take this asshole out. If the world carries out the death sentence, our drones will be more then glad to help out and ghost this horrible animal. It beats waiting for world policy to somehow make an instantaneous change.


That was kind of my thought... Gather intel, track him down, seal (no pun intended) the deal.


Why Kony and not the President of Uganda? Of course go after the killer thug that is against foreign imperialism and support the killer thug that is in favor of the foreign imperialism. (so to speak)

Out of all the people to get, they are focusing on the one who is so against the western push for Africa via AFRICOM.

Killing Kony is just one step the US needs to secure itself better in the area. I say, if it really is about 'justice' then they (the western powers) should target the ones who have killed even more than Kony. But they won't

It's not in Americas Interest right now, and Americas interests in the region are not based on decency and justice. The Taking over of peoples lands and natural resources is not just nor decent.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby peacefrompaul » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:29 pm

Idris wrote:
peacefrompaul wrote:
Jason P wrote:So, based on the overall sentiment, Uganda is screwed, right? Western influence has caused this problem, so I guess there is no way to fix it.

Or, how about we raise this issue to the world and allow Seal Team 6 and Bruce Willis to go take this asshole out. If the world carries out the death sentence, our drones will be more then glad to help out and ghost this horrible animal. It beats waiting for world policy to somehow make an instantaneous change.


That was kind of my thought... Gather intel, track him down, seal (no pun intended) the deal.


Why Kony and not the President of Uganda? Of course go after the killer thug that is against foreign imperialism and support the killer thug that is in favor of the foreign imperialism. (so to speak)

Out of all the people to get, they are focusing on the one who is so against the western push for Africa via AFRICOM.

Killing Kony is just one step the US needs to secure itself better in the area. I say, if it really is about 'justice' then they (the western powers) should target the ones who have killed even more than Kony. But they won't

It's not in Americas Interest right now, and Americas interests in the region are not based on decency and justice. The Taking over of peoples lands and natural resources is not just nor decent.


maybe it's someone else's turn.
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby eeriepadave » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:59 pm

watching the video on youtube now. A whole bunch pf people and musicians were putting it on facebook so thought i'd check it out
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby eeriepadave » Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:20 pm

eeriepadave wrote:watching the video on youtube now. A whole bunch pf people and musicians were putting it on facebook so thought i'd check it out


pretty touching. Anyone remember the movie Blood Diamond starring Leonardo DiCaprio about 5 or so years ago? This kinda reminds me of that movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPX2kXhu7I
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby arthurdent » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:50 pm

Kat wrote:http://www.kony2012.com/watch


kony2012 is a fraud:

http://thedailywh.at/2012/03/07/on-kony-2012-2/
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby peacefrompaul » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:00 pm

arthurdent wrote:
Kat wrote:http://www.kony2012.com/watch


kony2012 is a fraud:

http://thedailywh.at/2012/03/07/on-kony-2012-2/


What's the credibility of the daily what?
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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby Idris » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:19 pm

peacefrompaul wrote:
maybe it's someone else's turn.


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Re: Who is Joseph Kony?

Postby peacefrompaul » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:21 pm

Idris wrote:
peacefrompaul wrote:
maybe it's someone else's turn.


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