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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby pandora » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:14 pm

hedonist wrote:
pandora wrote:It is from the worse in life that the strongest bonds form

I believe that saying sums up the after trauma ... the human will is strong
if you are inclined to trust in God you know you have the strength to get through anything.

As to your first part, true - though I think some of the strongest bonds are also born from the best in life.

The second, I could replace god with "myself" (and often do, though not in a narcissistic way :D ) - but that makes more sense to me. Trust in myself, and the strength that comes from it, and using it.

I liken it to this

our marriage bond is very strong, I thought the strongest until my injury
and then JB cared for me when I was bedridden and thought I would never walk again.

Those were dark hours and the bond that came from that
is more than we ever would have known if not that had happened.
This is true throughout life, loss of our loved ones, tragedies, this our true growth
and bond... when tested. Love is easy when life is easy ...
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby pandora » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:33 pm

Having been an atheist I get the strength from within
I lived my life just as this ... until the age of 40.

What some don't realize ...
that does not change at all ...inner strength.

Some think this because they do not understand God and view God as a crutch
and now addiction :lol: instead of a creator. This they believe because they must find fault
or rationalize why God is not in their lives, why they do not choose to believe.
These individuals think they are not needing because they are strong.
And think others are not so they need God.This of course is incorrect.

God is knowledge

When actually what it is is the addition of the knowledge of God and our path
from here to the beyond ... this brings clarity to the meaning of life and an
understanding to why things happen as they do.... even the tragedies and terrible losses.

It is knowing life continues, that our energy continues, that we are one with God the creator.

It matters not our beliefs as I said we are connected whether we believe the same or not...
it is not my mission to bestow... I'll leave that to God ;)
Last edited by pandora on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:04 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby hedonist » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:28 pm

pandora wrote: Some think this because they do not understand God and view God as a crutch
and now addiction

our marriage bond is very strong, I thought the strongest until my injury
and then JB cared for me when I was bedridden and thought I would never walk again.

Those were dark hours and the bond that came from that
is more than we ever would have known if not that had happened.
This is true throughout life, loss of our loved ones, tragedies, this our true growth
and bond... when tested. Love is easy when life is easy ...

I don't view god as a crutch, but...I do think we're all - mostly - connected. In some very cool and unexpected ways.

I attribute it to nature. Some might call nature god, and vice versa. I could call it semantics. I could also say it's more than OK, natural in fact, to just not know.

For what it's worth, I can empathize with the tests you and yours went through; me and mine have done some treading too.

Glad you had all that strength around and within you, sincerely.

I still stand by that both the tough and easy roads test us.
For every mistake, we must surely be learning.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Hugh Freaking Dillon » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:01 pm

so all atheists are strong people. interesting.
you're so full of sh*t your ears are full of flies

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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Hugh Freaking Dillon » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:17 pm

and by the way, this: "They are not needing because they are strong.Others are not so they need God." is the very definition of a crutch. stating that you need something as a result of a weakness is called a crutch.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby PJ_Soul » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:29 pm

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:so all atheists are strong people. interesting.


Nobody said that.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Hugh Freaking Dillon » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:04 pm

PJ_Soul3388 wrote:
Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:so all atheists are strong people. interesting.


Nobody said that.


hey, it wasn't a claim I agree with. I think the idea is preposterous. but she said it:

Pandora wrote:They are not needing because they are strong.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby PJ_Soul » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:18 pm

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
PJ_Soul3388 wrote:
Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:so all atheists are strong people. interesting.


Nobody said that.


hey, it wasn't a claim I agree with. I think the idea is preposterous. but she said it:

Pandora wrote:They are not needing because they are strong.


Heh. I think in the end I am not needing because believing in something i find totally illogical and nonsensical the opposite of helpful in getting through life. :)
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby pandora » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:15 am

PJ_Soul3388 wrote:
Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
PJ_Soul3388 wrote:Nobody said that.


hey, it wasn't a claim I agree with. I think the idea is preposterous. but she said it:

Pandora wrote:They are not needing because they are strong.


Heh. I think in the end I am not needing because believing in something i find totally illogical and nonsensical the opposite of helpful in getting through life. :)

Actually I said we are all strong, with or without God! Human will :D
(I edited to hopefully make it clearer.)

And for me my life experiences ... 56 years now and counting
my knowledge and understanding, the world around, the evidence, my heart,
comes the common sense that of course God is with us, that we have
a path and we continue.

This tells me, I got it right for me! :D
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Just let me known to be
In search of the truth myself
There is a drop of blood on the ground
And it seems to me that it's not my kind
And I can't be sure if its yours or mine."
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby USARAY » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:37 am

“The outer conditions of a person's life will be found to reflect their inner beliefs”
James Allen

that's a truism
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Cosmo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:02 am

Tritone wrote:“The outer conditions of a person's life will be found to reflect their inner beliefs”
James Allen

that's a truism

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Pretty much says it all.
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Plus... I just wanted to be the 1,000th message in this thread.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby pandora » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:21 am

“Faith is not simply a patience that passively suffers until the storm is past. Rather, it is a spirit that bears things - with resignations, yes, but above all, with blazing, serene hope.”


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Just let me known to be
In search of the truth myself
There is a drop of blood on the ground
And it seems to me that it's not my kind
And I can't be sure if its yours or mine."
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby JonnyPistachio » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:55 am

Is the fact that most threads on religion become LOCKED at all a testament to how much religion is a major factor in wars and violence all over the world?
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby USARAY » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:54 pm

"Maybe this world is another planet's hell."

Aldous Huxley

interesting
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Jeanwah » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:05 am

I watched this last night, a very interesting look at trying to prove "God" exists.

Through the Worm Hole with Morgan Freeman: Is There A Creator?

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/through- ... a-creator/
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