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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Jeanwah » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:32 pm

keeponrockin wrote:My point is, if someone said "I can walk on water", or "I can come back to life after dieing" I would need to see some solid proof. I view religion in the same way.


If no one here steps up with the proof you're looking for, then I'd hope you're out researching it, because sitting on the belief that it doesn't happen, while being ignorant on the topics, does not mean it's impossible. Because near-death experiences, from looking at research, is real.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Jeanwah » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:33 pm

Jasunmark wrote:And by the way... nobody has ever died and come back to life. It's never happened once. Yes... some people have been declared "legally dead" and been revived.. but there has never once been a case of someone whose brain stopped all activity who then came back to life. Which should prove to anyone with a brain of their own that those "images of heaven" and "bright white lights" are just the brain doing what it does when you're asleep... having hallucinations that seem very real. But they're not. They're called "dreams."


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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Prince Of Dorkness » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:34 pm

Jeanwah wrote:There's so many widespread stories of near-death experiences, that it's getting quite difficult to deny that there is not an afterlife.


Really? Last night I dreamed I was swimming naked with Scott Caan. Did that happen too?

Yet if you followed what science and the bulk of the stories of near-death experiences have shown, you'd be likely to change your tune. It stops being religious and starts being a study of what actually happens.


No. It doesn't. That's just desperate Christians grasping at anything to prove something.

So there's no guarantee that it IS afterlife, but it's not some Big Foot or alien random find. It's widely documented.


So has Bigfoot. And hey... there's pictures and lots of people who saw him while they were awake.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Prince Of Dorkness » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:35 pm

Jeanwah wrote:
keeponrockin wrote:My point is, if someone said "I can walk on water", or "I can come back to life after dieing" I would need to see some solid proof. I view religion in the same way.


If no one here steps up with the proof you're looking for, then I'd hope you're out researching it, because sitting on the belief that it doesn't happen, while being ignorant on the topics, does not mean it's impossible. Because near-death experiences, from looking at research, is real.



No. It's not. There is no "proof" that anyone went to heaven. Just people desperate to believe it.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Idris » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:36 pm

I love when people quote Albert Einstein, so smart he was, so civilized, so intellectual, so moral. Oh yes he was, so smart, he urged the building of the Atom Bomb.

Do people not see the truth? :)
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Idris » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:40 pm

Jasunmark wrote:
MrAbraham wrote:You don't see a flaw in that logic?


What I see is someone terrified that they've been praying to a God that doesn't exist and wasting a lot of time and money on Sunday mornings.

God is an invention of man. End of story. It's not any more real than the Easter Bunny.

Churches make a lot of (tax free) money by scaring people into giving it to them. They need all that money to pay the legal fees from the lawsuits over the kids they fucked.

Religion is the major cause of hate, wars, guilt and mind-control. And that's all it will ever be.

When I see all those douchebag football players thanking God for the touchdown, it makes me want to puke. As if there were a God and he chose to not help starving children being raped and shot in the head in Somalia because he was too busy helping you win the big game.

Religion is just a money-making scheme by power-hungry control freaks. "Do as I say or God will punish you."

And if you can't see that, you're obviously very weak-minded.







And by the way... nobody has ever died and come back to life. It's never happened once. Yes... some people have been declared "legally dead" and been revived.. but there has never once been a case of someone whose brain stopped all activity who then came back to life. Which should prove to anyone with a brain of their own that those "images of heaven" and "bright white lights" are just the brain doing what it does when you're asleep... having hallucinations that seem very real. But they're not. They're called "dreams."


are you sure i'm the one that's terrified?

Talk about ego, whoa! :D Which is exactly my point,
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby whygohome » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:40 pm

MrAbraham wrote:I love when people quote Albert Einstein, so smart he was, so civilized, so intellectual, so moral. Oh yes he was, so smart, he urged the building of the Atom Bomb.

Do people not see the truth? :)


I guess you got me there.......................................... :lol:
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby arq » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:52 pm

I'm an almost a 100% Atheist, but I know that the only God who is alive and well is the one who find parking spots for xtians, but that's his one and only job.

And I found this little gem

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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby gimmesometruth27 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:55 pm

MrAbraham wrote:
Exactly!!!, but...who are you? :)


LOL, sometimes i wonder.... :lol:
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby gimmesometruth27 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:59 pm

arq wrote:I'm an almost a 100% Atheist, but I know that the only God who is alive and well is the one who find parking spots for xtians, but that's his one and only job.

And I found this little gem

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that cartoon is thought provoking. thanks for sharing.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby zarocat » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:06 pm

MrAbraham wrote:I love when people quote Albert Einstein, so smart he was, so civilized, so intellectual, so moral. Oh yes he was, so smart, he urged the building of the Atom Bomb.

Do people not see the truth? :)


Albert Einstein also said 'the only knowledge is experience'

So, minus your age from any number above 70 and that's when you'll surely be close to checking out and you'll know for sure if you'll be worm food or in a cozy corner of a cloud with Janis. Just be patient.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Idris » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:30 pm

zarocat wrote:
MrAbraham wrote:I love when people quote Albert Einstein, so smart he was, so civilized, so intellectual, so moral. Oh yes he was, so smart, he urged the building of the Atom Bomb.

Do people not see the truth? :)


Albert Einstein also said 'the only knowledge is experience'



Yes my friend! So..experience it, as the formula has been presented. Now you must answer it to know for yourself.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby zarocat » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:53 pm

MrAbraham wrote:
zarocat wrote:
MrAbraham wrote:I love when people quote Albert Einstein, so smart he was, so civilized, so intellectual, so moral. Oh yes he was, so smart, he urged the building of the Atom Bomb.

Do people not see the truth? :)


Albert Einstein also said 'the only knowledge is experience'



Yes my friend! So..experience it, as the formula has been presented. Now you must answer it to know for yourself.


I'm sorry ... the formula, say what?
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby Prince Of Dorkness » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:21 pm

MrAbraham wrote:are you sure i'm the one that's terrified?

Talk about ego, whoa! :D Which is exactly my point,



Typical Christian response... halfway between "I know you are but what am I" and answering with a question.

If you can't actually discuss a topic... try to find cute one-line responses that mean nothing.
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Re: Religious Beliefs

Postby LikeAnOcean » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:29 pm

Jeanwah wrote:
LikeAnOcean wrote:

That's my understanding, and I'm sticking with it.


This is what I find troubling. Refusal to contemplate one's beliefs, swearing that your mind will never change. As they say "“A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood”.

If we don't ever change our outlook in life, we don't evolve.

I was raised christian and am agnostic now. How am I being a block of wood? I'm just stating how I see life and what makes sense to me.
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