Oasis-Don't Believe the Truth official thread

[AxlUlrich]

just got the album..wow..huge improvement from the previous two albums.
i got the UK version with the dvd and book-like packaging..
so far my favorite tracks are Part of the Queue and The Importance of Being Idle
the dvd has nothing much though..just the EPK which can be found easily online..and the Lyla video..but pretty neat packaging
And yes the sleeve has all the lyrics :D

[HilaryJam]

ive been listening to it all weekend on their website. those are good tracks for sure. lyla has grown on me quite a bit too, so now i love it evn more than i first did.

[Obi Once]

just bought it (listened to it on my mp3 a few times) and really really like it! as u said a huge improvement on the latter album(s)!

so far i cant name any track s that i aprticularly like but the overall sound it good.

[AxlUlrich]

one bad thing though is i felt the album is too short...the short tracks were too short!
but damn this cd is gonna be on my player for a long long time

[Starfucker]

Lyla is a blatant ripoff of "street Fighting Man".

[Goatboy]

Lyla is a blatant ripoff of "street Fighting Man".

i love the new oasis album and the song "lyla" but your right on this one. the main verse of lyla is a complete and total ripoff of street fighting man no doubt about it. this is nothing new for oasis, they've had lots of ripoff type songs. i still like them though.

[El Riot Actor]

Allright! So tomorrow is the day i get my copy of the new Oasis.....woooo hoooo! I dont mind the last two records, but ii guess they could have been much better, especially Heathen Chemestry. So it will be nice to get another kick ass Oasis album.

[icarus]

Lyla is a blatant ripoff of "street Fighting Man".


the first line is similar but thats about it, dont see how its a blatant ripoff besides that first line

[AxlUlrich]

the first line is similar but thats about it, dont see how its a blatant ripoff besides that first line
my thoughts exactly..
so far Lyla seems to be the worse track on the album

[glasshouse]

1. take the beatles
2. slice out 75% of their collective brains
3. let them write some new stuff (with their newly found ingenius)
4. add a pussy for a frontman who thinks he's bigger than Jesus..........

and whala

1+2+3+4 = oasis

once again this album is just absolute proof of their incapability to do anything but rip off previous well worked efforts

it's to die for.

[brain of c]

i'll pick this one up today.

[D Lo Brown]

1. take the beatles
2. slice out 75% of their collective brains
3. let them write some new stuff (with their newly found ingenius)
4. add a pussy for a frontman who thinks he's bigger than Jesus..........

and whala

1+2+3+4 = oasis

once again this album is just absolute proof of their incapability to do anything but rip off previous well worked efforts

it's to die for.

1. Read an article in any music magazine from 1996 about Oasis.
2. Try to pass off writers' opinions as your own ideas
3. Repeat.

[Swallow Poison]

Admittedly this is only after 4 listens but I am a tad disappointed.

I am a big fan and have been since 94, so please don't accuse me of being an Oasis hater, but I think the new album is a bit of a let down.

I've read nothing but 4 star reviews, so perhaps my expectation levels were unreasonably high.

Turn Up The Sun is FAR too slow.

I find Mucky Fingers irritating.

Lyla is very good though.

Love Like a Bomb is decent enough.

The Importance of Being Idle is essentially The Coral, and I can't stand them, so this one does nothing for me.

The Meaning of Soul is ok.

Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is very good but what a waste at the end! I thought it was all going to kick off for an extended jam or heavy section and all of a sudden it just ends! I know some may think that is the song's charm, but it smacks more of a missed opportunity to me.

I can't remember anything about Part Of The Queue and Keep The Dream Alive, so they certainly haven't captured my imagination.

A Bell Will Ring is Oasis-By-Numbers but still pretty good nonetheless.

Let There Be Love is excellent. There must have been a huge temptation to roll out the 48 piece orchestra and have 3 key changes a la All Around The World but they thankfully and wisely chose to do something a bit different and more lo-fi with the inevitable flag-waving closer. Diversity is not usually one of Oasis's strong points, so I was quite glad when I heard this one.

Overall though, I'd give it 3 stars. No more, no less.

I think some reviewers are so glad to have them back so they can write about them, that this has influenced their opinions.

Each to their own though...

[Swallow Poison]

1. Read an article in any music magazine from 1996 about Oasis.
2. Try to pass off writers' opinions as your own ideas
3. Repeat.


Touche Mr Brown. Touche...

That has to be one of the funniest, yet truthful ripostes I have seen on these boards.

I also enjoyed your online battle of verbatim with Mr Starf*cker concerning U2.

Keep up the good work...

[glasshouse]

2. Try to pass off writers' opinions as your own ideas


hate to break it to you, but i'm capable of reaching these conclusions without having to read an article about oasis.
i just need to listen to their music.
the proof of the pudding is in the eating isn't it?




1. Read an article in any music magazine from 1996 about Oasis.
2. Try to pass off writers' opinions as your own ideas


where can i get a copy of all those articles dubbing oasis beatles rip offs?
so i'm not alone in this opinion? i'm actually being backed up by musical critics...mmmm cool

[D Lo Brown]

hate to break it to you, but i'm capable of reaching these conclusions without having to read an article about oasis.
i just need to listen to their music.
the proof of the pudding is in the eating isn't it?


where can i get a copy of all those articles dubbing oasis beatles rip offs?
so i'm not alone in this opinion? i'm actually being backed up by musical critics...mmmm cool

news flash: the band ADMITTED years ago they try to emulate the Beatles. And even Liam will admit that he's an asshole.

Your "conclusion" that you're so proud of ranks right up there with concluding that water is wet and the sky is blue.

Thanks for contributing.

[glasshouse]

news flash: the band ADMITTED years ago they try to emulate the Beatles. And even Liam will admit that he's an asshole.


let me get this right.
i'm saying that the beatles are oasis rip offs and that goldplated dildo is a Liam
and you, john lennon, blue water and the wet sky seems to agree

i'm not confused anymore
thanks for clearing up that murky cloud

[El Riot Actor]

I just got the new Oasis.... i just heard it once, i'm more into the 2nd half of the cd. My version came with 5 live songs from 1994 icluding:
rock n roll star
columbia
live forever
cigarettes and alcohol
and Supersonic.

I like it so far, i guess i expected the old poppy Oasis from whats the sory? morning glory, but in a way i'm glad is different .

[Starfucker]

I never got into Oasis, because they try to sound like their more successful British counterparts. All they sound like to me is a Beatles/Stones tribute band. If I want to hear a group that sounds like those 2 bands I'll listen to the real deal.

[gimmesometruth27]

the haters can hate all they want but simply put, this album is fuckin ace.

[AxlUlrich]

I just got the new Oasis.... i just heard it once, i'm more into the 2nd half of the cd. My version came with 5 live songs from 1994 icluding:
rock n roll star
columbia
live forever
cigarettes and alcohol
and Supersonic.

I like it so far, i guess i expected the old poppy Oasis from whats the sory? morning glory, but in a way i'm glad is different .
cool!
thats a bestbuy exclusive i heard...how are the live tracks?

[Swallow Poison]

I never got into Oasis, because they try to sound like their more successful British counterparts. All they sound like to me is a Beatles/Stones tribute band. If I want to hear a group that sounds like those 2 bands I'll listen to the real deal.

They have been albatrossed with this tag for a while now.

It was Noel and Liam who made the early comparisons, saying they wanted to be bigger than The Beatles etc and the press seemed to use this as a statement about their musical intentions.

I can think of a couple of examples where they actually seem to have ripped off The Beatles:

- the coda to She's Electric - it's the coda to A Little Help From My Friends (not the best song to choose to rip off if you ask me)
- Cigarettes In Hell - the mellotron is reminiscent of Strawberry Fields

Other than that though, I don't really see the comparison. There may be a general comparison to make, but no more than that.

I've always thought because of their swagger, they were much more akin to The Stones than The Beatles. The latter were never as rough around the edges as Oasis.

However, other than one line in the verse of Lyla, they have never directly ripped off The Stones either to my knowledge.

Furthermore, Oasis are to be commended in my book for their deference and reverance to The Beatles and The Stones which has resulted in 2 excellent covers - I Am The Walrus and Street Fighting Man - both are fresh and interesting versions.

I see your point about preferring to listen to the originals rather than the imitators but feel this is doing Oasis a disservice. They have contributed some amazing and original songs such as Live Forever, Acquiesce, Rockin Chair, to name but a few.

I would agree if you said why listen to Jet - just listen to AC/DC but that is because Jet don't seem to add anything new at all to what AC/DC have done.

Oasis on the other hand have added something new to their influences. The overall sound of Oasis in particular, especially on their first album, was definitely fresh and new at the time.

One might even venture, playing devil's advocate, why listen to The Stones? Just listen to the black r&b originals that never got the credit they deserved and that The Stones stood on the shoulders of to develop their own sound.

Everyone is influenced by someone. Music is an evolutionary process. It's ok to be inspired by someone, but try and add something new to the mix.

In my humble opinion, Oasis have...

[Swallow Poison]

I am revising my earlier review:

Keep The Dream Alive is excellent. Liam's vocals are superb and the vocal tune on the chorus is excellent.

It's the joint best song on there with Let There Be Love.

[AxlUlrich]

I am revising my earlier review:

Keep The Dream Alive is excellent. Liam's vocals are superb and the vocal tune on the chorus is excellent.

It's the joint best song on there with Let There Be Love.
Keep the Dream Alive and The Meaning of Soul are really growing on me...
favorite track is still Part of the Queue...Love like a Bomb is a close second

[El Riot Actor]

cool!
thats a bestbuy exclusive i heard...how are the live tracks?

Thats right, the best buy deal :)
Last night i had the pleasure of hearing this cd on my headphones and it was great from the first song to the last. This is the best Oasis cd since morning glory. i've only heard the first live track "rock n roll" star, it sounds pretty solid, but i wanna hear columbia and supersonic.

[PJammin']

I just got the new Oasis.... i just heard it once, i'm more into the 2nd half of the cd. My version came with 5 live songs from 1994 icluding:
rock n roll star
columbia
live forever
cigarettes and alcohol
and Supersonic.

I like it so far, i guess i expected the old poppy Oasis from whats the sory? morning glory, but in a way i'm glad is different .

did those live songs come with the dualdisc as well?

[brain of c]

i just heard it.


sounds like oasis.:cool:

[El Riot Actor]

did those live songs come with the dualdisc as well?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... nope :(

[El Riot Actor]

I know i said this (new one) is the best oasis since morning glory?, but i just heard standing on the shoulder of giants again and i think that i am the biggest fan of that album, i was gonna put some songs on my itunes but i ended putting all of them except little james, which was the first song Liam wrote by himself.
I love the whole thing pretty much, from fXXXin' in the bushes to Roll it over, man i love roll it over and the smooth solo there.
And also i think Heathen Chemestry gets of to a great start, you can feel the oasis magic on the first three songs and a few others on that album. So i guess i love all oasis albums!

[Goatboy]

i've listened to this album atleast a dozen times now and imo its easily their best since morning glory. all killer no filler. i'm a big time oasis fan but even i will admit that there last 3 albums have had some clunkers...but not this one. i'm actually a little shocked that its this good:)

[PJ_GA]

1. take the beatles
2. slice out 75% of their collective brains
3. let them write some new stuff (with their newly found ingenius)
4. add a pussy for a frontman who thinks he's bigger than Jesus..........

and whala

1+2+3+4 = oasis

once again this album is just absolute proof of their incapability to do anything but rip off previous well worked efforts

it's to die for.
oh fuck off

[AxlUlrich]

I know i said this (new one) is the best oasis since morning glory?, but i just heard standing on the shoulder of giants again and i think that i am the biggest fan of that album, i was gonna put some songs on my itunes but i ended putting all of them except little james, which was the first song Liam wrote by himself.
I love the whole thing pretty much, from fXXXin' in the bushes to Roll it over, man i love roll it over and the smooth solo there.
And also i think Heathen Chemestry gets of to a great start, you can feel the oasis magic on the first three songs and a few others on that album. So i guess i love all oasis albums!
i love SOTSOG too....Gas Panic! is one of the best songs they have ever done!
Where did it all go wrong and Who Feels Love? are great too.

[outontheporch]

this album is sweet! i can hear the beatle influence.

[outontheporch]

oh and lyrics have dylan in there too it seems...like Mucky Fingers seems like a cross between Lady Madonna and Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues

[AxlUlrich]

oh and lyrics have dylan in there too it seems...like Mucky Fingers seems like a cross between Lady Madonna and Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
yeh gotta agree..Mucky Fingers has that Dylan influence
good song,it's me least fav track on the album though

[outontheporch]

4. add a pussy for a frontman who thinks he's bigger than Jesus..........


it's to die for.

Hmm...I can't think of another well known (and by well known i mean one of the most influencial figures in our time) frontman who's made a comment similar to this. Can you?

[gimmesometruth27]

would that be lennon you speak of???

anyway i just wanted to give the song "the importance of being idle" a little love....noel's falsetto vocals on this one are incredible.

[soulsinging]

i just got it today. i played it once in the car/shower, then twice while making out with my girl before seeing star wars ;) we both agree it's an excellent cd, and it only gets better with repeated listens.

and i love giants and heathen chemistry. this one tops them both i think.

[AxlUlrich]

would that be lennon you speak of???

anyway i just wanted to give the song "the importance of being idle" a little love....noel's falsetto vocals on this one are incredible.
i think it should have been the next single instead of Let There Be Love
very very good tune..love the lyrics too

[AxlUlrich]

did those live songs come with the dualdisc as well?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4735290139&rd=1
im guessing as long as you buy it from Best Buy it comes with the 5 track ep

[A Surprise Left]

there was an interview with liam that was printed in one of the daily papers here today. man that guy is such a dick but so funny lol. he reckons he's the best rock and roll star he's country has ever produced! lol but that is a sideshow his brother is one of the best songwriters of our generation so that stuff doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

[PJammin']

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4735290139&rd=1
im guessing as long as you buy it from Best Buy it comes with the 5 track ep

thanks. too late. i bought the dueldisc at Target for $11.98. i guess i can do without the 5 track ep.

[PJammin']

you know what? you guys weren't talking out of your ass. i'm digging this cd only on the second listen. wow.

...and i haven't bought an Oasis cd in a looooong time.

[AxlUlrich]

you know what? you guys weren't talking out of your ass. i'm digging this cd only on the second listen. wow.

...and i haven't bought an Oasis cd in a looooong time.
most people think Oasis fans are just being biased etc..but this album is really really that good!

[Cornflakegrl98]

most people think Oasis fans are just being biased etc..but this album is really really that good!

most oasis fans agree anyway that the last 2 albums have been lacking something. don't get me wrong, both have some awesome songs (gas panic, force of nature, hindu times, go let let it out, etc), but every song wasn't awesome like say every song on definitely maybe or WTSMG were. so i definitely agree with you that it's not us fans being biased about the new album.

anyway i listened to the songs on itunes, and i'm impressed just by the 30 second clips, it feels like the old oasis is back and noel sings a lot, who could ask for more?

[PJammin']

most people think Oasis fans are just being biased etc..but this album is really really that good!

i can't dispute that, i'm glad that i bought this album. i'm still getting familiar with the songs, but i really like the overall sound of this album.

[soulsinging]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4735290139&rd=1
im guessing as long as you buy it from Best Buy it comes with the 5 track ep

man, any chance someone could burn that thing for me? if id known about it id have bought the album at best buy...

[AxlUlrich]

man, any chance someone could burn that thing for me? if id known about it id have bought the album at best buy...
yeh i wished i had the EP too..can never get bored of Columbia!

[exhausted]

it's a grower. i wasn't too impressed with it at first but now, after hearing the properly mastered version, i'm getting along better with it.

love "part of the queue".

[El Riot Actor]

I'll burn and mail the 5 songs LIVE cd to the first 5 people that ask me for it!
But PM me that way i dont have to be checking here!

[PJ_GA]

I can't wait for the tour! 20 rows back in Atlanta...yeah baby...

[AxlUlrich]

it's a grower. i wasn't too impressed with it at first but now, after hearing the properly mastered version, i'm getting along better with it.

love "part of the queue".
oh yes..Part Of The Queue was the only track i immediately loved!
the rest had to grow on me after 2 listens

[Swallow Poison]

I know i said this (new one) is the best oasis since morning glory?, but i just heard standing on the shoulder of giants again and i think that i am the biggest fan of that album, i was gonna put some songs on my itunes but i ended putting all of them except little james, which was the first song Liam wrote by himself.
I love the whole thing pretty much, from fXXXin' in the bushes to Roll it over, man i love roll it over and the smooth solo there.


Totally agree.

I've always enjoyed Standing On The Shoulders as well and never understood the poor reviews it got. Gas Panic, FITB and Go Let It Out in particular are massivley underrated.

I often think the media heap praise on one album and then slate the next one. They do love a good Oasis backlash. Then, when they realise they have missed all the shenanigans and good copy that only Oasis can provide, they change tack and hype up the next return, realising they have missed them.

I always remember the NME review of Morning Glory back in 95. The NME was desperate to start an Oasis backlash and was doing them down for weeks. The rating the album got was actually 8 out of 10 but read like a 5. For a time, some portions of the music press seemed scared of giving them a bad review!

Gave the new album another couple of listens last night and it has gravitated to 3.5 stars now.

The flaws are it's far too short and Mucky Fingers and Importance of Being Idle annoy me.

Once again though, Keep The Dream Alive is a special song (it is now my favourite) and Let There Be Love is a cool closer.

[Obi Once]

ok i've listen more patiently and:
-turn up the sun is a great opener, cool lyrics, good tempo and nice guitarwork
-mucky fingers has not yet grown on me yet
-lyla the logical pick for the 1st single
-love like a bomb, this is the oasis sound that got me hooked in the ist place, controlled easy listening poppy tune.
-the importance of being idle... fucking brilliant
-meaning of soul, see mucky fingers.
-..thinks im abel, noel showing of and doing a good job.
-part of the queue, very rhythmic tune, reminds me of other songs, has a timeless quality
-keep the dream alive, solid n uplifting oasis tune
-a bell will ring, nice uptempo sound, cool lyrics
-let there be love... yes let there be love!

btw i found a version of this album like a little book with a dvd in it, pretty nice, i like 'special' packaging

[DocChicago]

I finally picked this up yesterday. I do think it's better than the last two albums. I think that Mucky Fingers and The Importance of Being Idle need to grow on me; I don't understand why Noel insisted on singing them. Liam's tunes, on the other hand, are great. In fact, the whole second half of the album is amazing. My favorite so far is Keep the Dream Alive.

The haters have been pointing out the similarities between Lyla and Street Fighting Man, but I haven't heard anyone remark on the similarity between the verse in Part of the Queue and Bananarama's Cruel Summer. Am I crazy?

[AxlUlrich]

I finally picked this up yesterday. I do think it's better than the last two albums. I think that Mucky Fingers and The Importance of Being Idle need to grow on me; I don't understand why Noel insisted on singing them. Liam's tunes, on the other hand, are great. In fact, the whole second half of the album is amazing. My favorite so far is Keep the Dream Alive.

The haters have been pointing out the similarities between Lyla and Street Fighting Man, but I haven't heard anyone remark on the similarity between the verse in Part of the Queue and Bananarama's Cruel Summer. Am I crazy?
lol..Part of the Queue actually reminded me of RHCP's Breaking The Girl

[7 Kettles]

it's a great album. i'm proud of the boys this time around.

i especially like the last track (let there be love) and part of the queue.

[DocChicago]

lol..Part of the Queue actually reminded me of RHCP's Breaking The Girl

Now that you mention it, I can see that too. I have to go listen to that one again now.

[miller8966]

I love this cd. The song "muckyfingers" has been on repeat for a week now.

As much as they get bashed i can always find a song on any album and listen to it for weeks at a time.

And i really liked Heathen Chemistry

[AxlUlrich]

Now that you mention it, I can see that too. I have to go listen to that one again now.
yep especially the drums!
thats one thing that really drew me to this song...cos Breaking the Girl was the song that made me a RHCP fan back then

[AxlUlrich]

looks like the album is expected to sell 60k in its first week in the US..not too bad..
The Importance of Being Idle has been confirmed as the next single by Liam himself..followed by Let There Be Love which should be out by christmas

[Apache Rose Peacock]

I used to be a big Oasis fan back in 95-6, but I've gone off them more recently. I don't find their music very intelligent or inspiring.

I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.

[PJammin']

I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.

i think that Lyla is one of the weaker tracks off of the album. good album though. my favorite as of now is track 8, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel.

[kdpjam]

i just got the cd and i must say i think it is really good. not sure which song is my favorite yet. will let it sink in a bit. flows really well and is awesome, imo. ;)

[AxlUlrich]

i think that Lyla is one of the weaker tracks off of the album. good album though. my favorite as of now is track 8, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel.
yeh i think so too...for me its the second worse track.
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a great song..but i wished the outro could have started a new verse to song instead of just being an outro

[A Surprise Left]

I used to be a big Oasis fan back in 95-6, but I've gone off them more recently. I don't find their music very intelligent or inspiring.

I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.


their music isn't intellectual at all (although some of noel's lyrics are preddy good) but if you want good songwriting (albeit ripping off the beatles and stones lol) then noel is your man. one of the best of his generation........

heathen chemistry seems to get a bit of a bad rap but its preddy good i reckon. songs like songbird, little by little and stop crying your heart out are very good IMO.

[Cornflakegrl98]

I used to be a big Oasis fan back in 95-6, but I've gone off them more recently. I don't find their music very intelligent or inspiring.

I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.

well that is true, oasis are certainly not that deep like say tori amos or the cure are deep but that's a good thing because the songs are catchy and stick in your head and that makes for an enjoyable band. if i just picked my music based on the intelligence of lyrics, i probably would get bored and miss out on a lot of cool bands.

[glasshouse]

close this thread so that we can start to reserve some credibility once more. then we can deposit this credibility in an account that provides compound interest for the "act against established mediocricy".

[kdpjam]

is listening to the cd as i type. :) so far my two faves are keep the dream alive and turn up the sun.

[AxlUlrich]

is listening to the cd as i type. :) so far my two faves are keep the dream alive and turn up the sun.
http://www.savefile.com/filehost/files.php?fid=6299548
heres a link to Turn Up the Sun Live from Brussels

[kdpjam]

http://www.savefile.com/filehost/files.php?fid=6299548
heres a link to Turn Up the Sun Live from Brussels

thanks!!!!

[AxlUlrich]

thanks!!!!
yeh they had the whole show on stream at some belgian radio site..sadly this is only bit of it i could find
Don't Believe The Truth has debuted at No.1 in the UK smashing other major release by The Black Eyed Peas which came in at No.4. Gorillaz falls to No.2.

Whats The Story Morning Glory has jumped 11 places to No.27, Definitely Maybe jumps 19 places to No.48 and Heathen Chemistry is No. 68.

not bad...older albums are still on the UK charts :D

[Swallow Poison]

Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a great song..but i wished the outro could have started a new verse to song instead of just being an outro

Totally agree - I said the same in a post earlier in this thread.

I think all of Liam's songs are too short but that one could really have done with the heavy outro continuing for a bit. As I said before, a missed opportunity.

I'm still amazed by Keep The Dream Alive. What's even more surprising is that it's an Andy Bell-penned track.

Best on the album in my humble opinion...

[AxlUlrich]

Totally agree - I said the same in a post earlier in this thread.

I think all of Liam's songs are too short but that one could really have done with the heavy outro continuing for a bit. As I said before, a missed opportunity.

I'm still amazed by Keep The Dream Alive. What's even more surprising is that it's an Andy Bell-penned track.

Best on the album in my humble opinion...
i kinda enjoy Andy Bell's tunes more than Gem's...im not that much a fan of Eyeball Tickler..but A Bell Will Ring is pretty good

[Swallow Poison]

i kinda enjoy Andy Bell's tunes more than Gem's...im not that much a fan of Eyeball Tickler..but A Bell Will Ring is pretty good


I agree Gem's aren't the best but they are ok. If anything, A Bell Will Ring should be longer too.

I get the feeling that 4/5 of the songs off Truth have been finished in a slap-dash manner. It's almost as though (especially with Liam's songs) they couldn't be arsed writing a middle 8 or a bridge and just thought sod it that'll do - hence many songs are 3 minutes or under.

Don't get me wrong though - I still like the album and am giving it massive airplay in Casa Poison.

Can't believe I am conversing in a civil manner with a Liverpool fan...

[AxlUlrich]

I agree Gem's aren't the best but they are ok. If anything, A Bell Will Ring should be longer too.

I get the feeling that 4/5 of the songs off Truth have been finished in a slap-dash manner. It's almost as though (especially with Liam's songs) they couldn't be arsed writing a middle 8 or a bridge and just thought sod it that'll do - hence many songs are 3 minutes or under.

Don't get me wrong though - I still like the album and am giving it massive airplay in Casa Poison.

Can't believe I am conversing in a civil manner with a Liverpool fan...
yeh the songs were abit too short...but for The Meaning of Soul..i think the length for that was just about right.

another Evertonian? lol
thought blue mosquito was the only one here

[Swallow Poison]

yeh the songs were abit too short...but for The Meaning of Soul..i think the length for that was just about right.

another Evertonian? lol
thought blue mosquito was the only one here

I agree with Meaning of Soul because that's the kind of song it is.

However, we are already in agreement about Guess God Thinks I'm Abel and I reckon A Bell Will Ring and Love Like A Bomb could be longer too.

It just seems to me that when you buy an album with 11 songs on, you expect it to be longer than 43 minutes.

Maybe there should have been an extra song on it.

I am indeed an Evertonian.

I reckon Steven Gerrard will wait until he finds out if you are in The Champions League or not. If you aint, he's gone...

[DocChicago]

I may be wrong, but there appear to be a lot more keyboards on this album than in previous ones. It will be interesting to see if they include them in live versions. I haven't listened to that live version of "Turn Up the Sun" yet. Do they have some hired gun playing the keys?

I'm getting amped to see them in Mass later this month.

[AxlUlrich]

I may be wrong, but there appear to be a lot more keyboards on this album than in previous ones. It will be interesting to see if they include them in live versions. I haven't listened to that live version of "Turn Up the Sun" yet. Do they have some hired gun playing the keys?

I'm getting amped to see them in Mass later this month.
if im not wrong..since the Morning Glory days..they have had a guy playing keys
just read that this album is the first UK band album to hit number 1 in Japan since the Bay City Rollers in 1977! not too bad :D

[pushmepullme]

My mate loves oasis. but he says this album is shit.
i, however, think all their songs are shit, every single one of them.

[DocChicago]

My mate loves oasis. but he says this album is shit.
i, however, think all their songs are shit, every single one of them.

Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.

[AxlUlrich]

Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.
lol theres too much hate in this board..all i see are threads and polls about which band,singer etc who is the most hated...now its why hate coldplay and U2...im not a fan of most bands people like here..but you dont see me going to a Coldplay thread and saying they suck.

[Swallow Poison]

Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.

Well said sir.

That is indeed the purpose of the vitriol thread - to allow people to vent their spleens in a place dedicated to negativity, as opposed to ruining perfectly good conversation with comments intended to inflame and annoy.

The problem is though, someone has just posted in there that they hate Oasis...

[AxlUlrich]

Well said sir.

That is indeed the purpose of the vitriol thread - to allow people to vent their spleens in a place dedicated to negativity, as opposed to ruining perfectly good conversation with comments intended to inflame and annoy.

The problem is though, someone has just posted in there that they hate Oasis...
yeh i kinda ignored that lol..im used to people bashing everyone i admire...especially Oasis,Lars Ulrich and Axl Rose...and more recently Perry Farrell :(

[Swallow Poison]

yeh i kinda ignored that lol..im used to people bashing everyone i admire...especially Oasis,Lars Ulrich and Axl Rose...and more recently Perry Farrell :(

Well I for one have a lot of time for all those guys.

[pushmepullme]

So, in a discussion about the new Oasis album, no one is allowed to say its crap?

[Swallow Poison]

So, in a discussion about the new Oasis album, no one is allowed to say its crap?

Fair enough - post that if you want to.

I think merely lambasting a band is more likely to incense people though, whereas a well thought-out critique is a lot more pallatable and agreeable.

[Cornflakegrl98]

So, in a discussion about the new Oasis album, no one is allowed to say its crap?

nah no one's saying that, i mean if you listened to it objectively and really can't stand it and you post a review of why you didn't like it, I mean that's fine. I haven't bought the album yet so i like reading about what tracks worked on the album and which didn't. that's cool.

however, the people that just come on and insult oasis and their fans just to start fights, not cool. when i read this thread i want to hear opinions about the album, i don't want to read bullshit about liam and noel's attitudes because i don't care about that and it deviates from the topic.

[pushmepullme]

Oasis. Well, well, well.
Back in the mid 1990's, there was a time when bands like Oasis roamed the earth. It was a time of increased machoism, and the 'lad' culture was newly born, fuelled by increased popularity in footall (EURO 96 helped), laddettes (Zoe Ball, Sara Cox), New Labour, Lad magazines (Loaded, FHM) and indie (Bands like Oasis, Blue, Stone Roses, OCS etc). The music defined an age, edgy, fashionable, rocky and sensitive. It was in this musical landscape that Oasis thrived, playing up on the age, by staging massive outdoor concerts, being drunk all the time, hanging out with Blair and being seen at all the right parties. Their music at this time was good too, properly rocking, with riffs, and the ballads were excellent.
However, Oasis' third record, signalled the end of the lad movement. Be Here Now was a terrible record, comprising not a single new tune, and moments of gross self indulgence (All Around The World, Do You Know What I Mean). As the other bands of that era have either disappeared, or reinvented themselves (Blur, Radiohead), Oasis have clung desparately to their past glories, still swearing and acting all cocky in interviews, which just sound stupid when they're all approaching their 40's.
Their records since this time, have all been largely dissappointing affairs, with only a trace of their former glories (Stop Crying Your Heart Out), overshadowed by the huge amounts of dross (Lyla).
With new bands challenging our perceptions of 'popular' music, and the mainstream sound getting heavier and heavier, Oasis are just embarrassing, to the large population of Britain, an embarrassment.

Of course, Oasis are shit would have been quicker.

[kdpjam]

why is the album crap? oasis is not my favorite band by far, but i enjoy the new one and don't see how someone could call it crap.

[Swallow Poison]

Oasis. Well, well, well.
Back in the mid 1990's, there was a time when bands like Oasis roamed the earth. It was a time of increased machoism, and the 'lad' culture was newly born, fuelled by increased popularity in footall (EURO 96 helped), laddettes (Zoe Ball, Sara Cox), New Labour, Lad magazines (Loaded, FHM) and indie (Bands like Oasis, Blue, Stone Roses, OCS etc). The music defined an age, edgy, fashionable, rocky and sensitive. It was in this musical landscape that Oasis thrived, playing up on the age, by staging massive outdoor concerts, being drunk all the time, hanging out with Blair and being seen at all the right parties. Their music at this time was good too, properly rocking, with riffs, and the ballads were excellent.
However, Oasis' third record, signalled the end of the lad movement. Be Here Now was a terrible record, comprising not a single new tune, and moments of gross self indulgence (All Around The World, Do You Know What I Mean). As the other bands of that era have either disappeared, or reinvented themselves (Blur, Radiohead), Oasis have clung desparately to their past glories, still swearing and acting all cocky in interviews, which just sound stupid when they're all approaching their 40's.
Their records since this time, have all been largely dissappointing affairs, with only a trace of their former glories (Stop Crying Your Heart Out), overshadowed by the huge amounts of dross (Lyla).
With new bands challenging our perceptions of 'popular' music, and the mainstream sound getting heavier and heavier, Oasis are just embarrassing, to the large population of Britain, an embarrassment.

Of course, Oasis are shit would have been quicker.

I think one of the reasons for their emergence and initial popularity was that they were a complete opposite to the shoe-gazing, "our fans are idiots" and "I don't want to be famous" attitudes of their Grunge counterparts, thus were a welcome change. Oasis wanted it all.

The main reason though, was that they had great songs. Live Forever, Slide Away, Cast No Shadow, Wonderwall, Whatever - to name but a few of their earlier work. Never mind the oft-quoted superior B Sides that they virtually threw away.

I will agree that their music has been in decline somewhat since Morning Glory but firmly believe they still add gems to an already stagnant music scene in this country. Some often judge them by their own earlier and higher standards and I would agree, using this yardstick, they fail to reach those vertigo-inducing heights.

However, they still deserve our attention and I for one, believe this new album to be somewhat of a resurgence.

Of course, saying Oasis are still pretty great would have been quicker...

[pushmepullme]

I think one of the reasons for their emergence and initial popularity was that they were a complete opposite to the shoe-gazing, "our fans are idiots" and "I don't want to be famous" attitudes of their Grunge counterparts, thus were a welcome change. Oasis wanted it all.

The main reason though, was that they had great songs. Live Forever, Slide Away, Cast No Shadow, Wonderwall, Whatever - to name but a few of their earlier work. Never mind the oft-quoted superior B Sides that they virtually threw away.

I will agree that their music has been in decline somewhat since Morning Glory but firmly believe they still add gems to an already stagnant music scene in this country. Some often judge them by their own earlier and higher standards and I would agree, using this yardstick, they fail to reach those vertigo-inducing heights.

However, they still deserve our attention and I for one, believe this new album to be somewhat of a resurgence.

Of course, saying Oasis are still pretty great would have been quicker...

Cast No Shadow was good, I'll give you that.

[kdpjam]

I think one of the reasons for their emergence and initial popularity was that they were a complete opposite to the shoe-gazing, "our fans are idiots" and "I don't want to be famous" attitudes of their Grunge counterparts, thus were a welcome change. Oasis wanted it all.

The main reason though, was that they had great songs. Live Forever, Slide Away, Cast No Shadow, Wonderwall, Whatever - to name but a few of their earlier work. Never mind the oft-quoted superior B Sides that they virtually threw away.

I will agree that their music has been in decline somewhat since Morning Glory but firmly believe they still add gems to an already stagnant music scene in this country. Some often judge them by their own earlier and higher standards and I would agree, using this yardstick, they fail to reach those vertigo-inducing heights.

However, they still deserve our attention and I for one, believe this new album to be somewhat of a resurgence.

Of course, saying Oasis are still pretty great would have been quicker...


well said!!! i agree ;)

[Cornflakegrl98]

anything from definitely maybe (except digsey's diner, hate that song) or morning glory were Oasis at their peak. and those 2 albums produced some great b-sides, "talk tonight", "headshrinker" and "acquiesce" just to name a few.

i definitely agree that Oasis did decline after Be Here Now, but even though Standing on the Shoulder of Giants and Heathen Chemistry were not perfect, they really did have their moments of greatness. hearing that the new album is like a resurgence makes me even more excited for when i will see them live at the end of the month!

[Swallow Poison]

Cast No Shadow was good, I'll give you that.

It was indeed very good.

In my humble opinion, possibly Liam's best vocal performance. The drumming triplets by Alan White are excellent too.

If you didn't know (I'm sure most of you do) it was about Richard Ashcroft of the now defunct Verve.

[Swallow Poison]

anything from definitely maybe (except digsey's diner, hate that song) or morning glory were Oasis at their peak. and those 2 albums produced some great b-sides, "talk tonight", "headshrinker" and "acquiesce" just to name a few.

i definitely agree that Oasis did decline after Be Here Now, but even though Standing on the Shoulder of Giants and Heathen Chemistry were not perfect, they really did have their moments of greatness. hearing that the new album is like a resurgence makes me even more excited for when i will see them live at the end of the month!

Enjoy the gig.

Hopefully it won't go the way of previous US tours...

[AxlUlrich]

anything from definitely maybe (except digsey's diner, hate that song) or morning glory were Oasis at their peak. and those 2 albums produced some great b-sides, "talk tonight", "headshrinker" and "acquiesce" just to name a few.

i definitely agree that Oasis did decline after Be Here Now, but even though Standing on the Shoulder of Giants and Heathen Chemistry were not perfect, they really did have their moments of greatness. hearing that the new album is like a resurgence makes me even more excited for when i will see them live at the end of the month!
heh i actually like Digsy's Dinner alot...
i love Oasis's b sides..they are the only band whom i actually bothered collecting every single they put out (cept the OZ singles for Morning Glory and Champagne Supernova)
sadly i wasnt too impressed with the b-sides from Heathen Chemistry and Lyla

[Cornflakegrl98]

Enjoy the gig.

Hopefully it won't go the way of previous US tours...

heh that was in the back of my mind as i was buying the tickets, and I have awesome seats!

I do hope they are past that, though even if Liam were to refuse to perform, i wouldn't mind hearing noel, he did a great job at the unplugged show...

[Swallow Poison]

heh i actually like Digsy's Dinner alot...
i love Oasis's b sides..they are the only band whom i actually bothered collecting every single they put out (cept the OZ singles for Morning Glory and Champagne Supernova)
sadly i wasnt too impressed with the b-sides from Heathen Chemistry and Lyla

I've been listening to the Go Let It Out single a lot lately.

First of all, the A Side was really underrated in my opinion, but how good were the B Sides?

Let's All Make Believe is astounding and Cigarettes In Hell is excellent too.

Many believe all the best B Sides to be around the Cigarettes & Alcohol to Don't Look Back In Anger period (from which Underneath the Sky was an underdog favourite of mine) and often overlook this little classic...

[Cornflakegrl98]

heh i actually like Digsy's Dinner alot...
i love Oasis's b sides..they are the only band whom i actually bothered collecting every single they put out (cept the OZ singles for Morning Glory and Champagne Supernova)
sadly i wasnt too impressed with the b-sides from Heathen Chemistry and Lyla

heh, sometimes digsy's doesn't bother me, but it's definitely not a favorite. little james is another one i'm not crazy about.

i bought all the singles when i went to london in 1997, happiest day of my life since i couldn't find them anywhere. i've stopped collecting after "Do you Know What I mean", i'm not that big of a B-side freak because with most bands they are just disappointing.

[DocChicago]

I'm having a really hard time getting the Lyla B-sides from my quasi-legal file sharing service of choice. The decline in quality in B-sides over the past 2 albums has been unfortunate. I do agree that "Let's All Make Believe" is a gem, and "Carry Us All" is sweet as well. But I'm still hoping for another "Whatever."

Did someone say earlier that "The Importance of Being Idle" is confirmed as the next single? Is that true for the US as well?

(finally, thanks to pushmepullme for the more insightful post explaining why he thinks Oasis are shit. it showed a much higher level of civility and discourse than we often see around here. kudos.)

[AxlUlrich]

I'm having a really hard time getting the Lyla B-sides from my quasi-legal file sharing service of choice. The decline in quality in B-sides over the past 2 albums has been unfortunate. I do agree that "Let's All Make Believe" is a gem, and "Carry Us All" is sweet as well. But I'm still hoping for another "Whatever."

Did someone say earlier that "The Importance of Being Idle" is confirmed as the next single? Is that true for the US as well?

(finally, thanks to pushmepullme for the more insightful post explaining why he thinks Oasis are shit. it showed a much higher level of civility and discourse than we often see around here. kudos.)
yep it is confirmed..
one of the b-sides is Pass Me Down the Wine which can be found on itunes i think..and everyone's been raving about it..
atm it looks like after TIOBI..the next singles will be Let There Be Love in November and Love Like a Bomb in February

[DocChicago]

yep it is confirmed..
one of the b-sides is Pass Me Down the Wine which can be found on itunes i think

Yeah, it's there on iTunes, but only if I download the whole DBTT album, which I already own. Fuckers. I did get the Best Buy version with the 5-song live bonus disc though.

[Cornflakegrl98]

yep it is confirmed..
one of the b-sides is Pass Me Down the Wine which can be found on itunes i think..and everyone's been raving about it..
atm it looks like after TIOBI..the next singles will be Let There Be Love in November and Love Like a Bomb in February

"pass me down the wine" is an exclusive and you can only download it if you buy the album through Itunes, bastards!

[AxlUlrich]

"pass me down the wine" is an exclusive and you can only download it if you buy the album through Itunes, bastards!
Dont worry..Liam confirmed its gonna be on a b-side soon :D

[AxlUlrich]

here is how Don't Believe the Truth debuted around the world for those interested...
-Uk #1
-Japan #1
-Ireland #1
-Italy #1
-Argentina #1
-Switzerland #3
-Norway #5
-France #5
-Holland #11
-U.S.A #12 with sales of 60k..highest debut since Be Here Now debuted at #2 in the US
-Belgium #42
-Mexico #5
-Australia #5
-Singapore #9

[DocChicago]

What are those kooky Belgians listening to? #42?!!

[AxlUlrich]

What are those kooky Belgians listening to? #42?!!
lol yeh that was what i was wondering!
i was hoping for a better debut on the US charts..but ah well..guess it's still not too bad

[pushmepullme]

(finally, thanks to pushmepullme for the more insightful post explaining why he thinks Oasis are shit. it showed a much higher level of civility and discourse than we often see around here. kudos.)

No problemo. I Noel is one of the more intelligent and funny 'rock stars' around.

[El Riot Actor]

here is how Don't Believe the Truth debuted around the world for those interested...
-Uk #1
-Japan #1
-Ireland #1
-Italy #1
-Argentina #1
-Switzerland #3
-Norway #5
-France #5
-Holland #11
-U.S.A #12 with sales of 60k..highest debut since Be Here Now debuted at #2 in the US
-Belgium #42
-Mexico #5
-Australia #2

That's excellent dude!

[El Riot Actor]

Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is my favourite Oasis the first two albums are two poppy and the 3rd the songs are too long. SOTSOG is perfect for me, it's more rock n' roll than al the other albums.

[AxlUlrich]

Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is my favourite Oasis the first two albums are two poppy and the 3rd the songs are too long. SOTSOG is perfect for me, it's more rock n' roll than al the other albums.
i agree with Be Here Now being too long and draggy..but Definitely Maybe poppy? nah not at all..WTSMG maybe..

[Cornflakegrl98]

i don't consider definitely maybe poppy, WTSMG yes. DM is the snottiest, in your face album oasis ever released, that's why it's my favorite album :)

[AxlUlrich]

i don't consider definitely maybe poppy, WTSMG yes. DM is the snottiest, in your face album oasis ever released, that's why it's my favorite album :)
yeh DM is very rock n roll!!
Personally i still prefer WTSMG over DM...but i think Slide Away is better than any song on WTSMG

[kdpjam]

i can't quit singing the importance of being idle. "i can't get a life if my heart's not in it" gotta love it!

[AxlUlrich]

i can't quit singing the importance of being idle. "i can't get a life 'cause my heart's not in it" gotta love it!
yeh dun get why many hate this song and protest it being the next single.
i really love the lyrics to it and Part of the Queue
that line from TIOBI actually reminds me of the line in rock n roll star where Liam sings " Is it worth the aggravation
To find yourself a job when there's nothing worth working for?"

[icarus]

yea pass me down the wine is a great song.

the lyla bsides are okay, wont let you down is okay, and eyeball tickler is a pretty good rocking song.

i dont think many have mentioned the japanese bonus tracks. sitting here in silence (on my own) is a great song, and i can see it now is good as well.

[El Riot Actor]

i agree with Be Here Now being too long and draggy..but Definitely Maybe poppy? nah not at all..WTSMG maybe..

I love all the albums, but maybe now that i'm a bit older i find standing on the shoulder of Giants more classic rock!

[AxlUlrich]

yea pass me down the wine is a great song.

the lyla bsides are okay, wont let you down is okay, and eyeball tickler is a pretty good rocking song.

i dont think many have mentioned the japanese bonus tracks. sitting here in silence (on my own) is a great song, and i can see it now is good as well.
i haven't heard them yet..waiting for them to appear on b-sides

[AxlUlrich]

for those who havent seen it..heres a performance of Lyla on german tv..and below has an interview with the band too..enjoy..
http://tvtotal.prosieben.de/show/letzte_sendung/2005/06/07/06260.html

[Cornflakegrl98]

streaming the album as I type, I love "turn up the sun", the snottiness is back :) definitely a better opener than "the hindu times" IMO.

mucky fingers is awesome too, love the sound of noels voice and that's as far as I got, heh, but so far not disappointed at all!

[AxlUlrich]

streaming the album as I type, I love "turn up the sun", the snottiness is back :) definitely a better opener than "the hindu times" IMO.

mucky fingers is awesome too, love the sound of noels voice and that's as far as I got, heh, but so far not disappointed at all!
yeh Noel's vocals have really improved..noticed that...Turn Up the Son is a great opener..especially love the outro...intro does remind me of Travis alittle

[Cornflakegrl98]

yeh Noel's vocals have really improved..noticed that...Turn Up the Son is a great opener..especially love the outro...intro does remind me of Travis alittle

i definitely noticed that too, Noel hasn't sounded so crisp since "talk tonight"...so far my favorite track is "the meaning of soul".

this album is by far an improvement, the songs are concise, not bloated or overproduced and overall, it's the probably the best Oasis album since WTSMG

[El Riot Actor]

Man!!!! Last night i was really getting into the new Oasis, wow!
The band open up with turn up the sun, and it's like an explossion "I CARRY THE MADNESS EVERYWHERE I GO" .......hell yeah that's the Liam i wanna hear! I think i'm gonna spend a lot of time with this record.....

[El Riot Actor]

Camon Turn Up The Sun!

Turn It For Every One!!!!


Love One Another! Love One Another!

[kdpjam]

ok, gonna go turn the disc up and rock out ;)

[El Riot Actor]

Noel does a supperb job on Mucky Fingers, i am proud of him, he sounds so great, i'm glad he sings in at least two songs on each Oasis album!!!

[AxlUlrich]

Noel does a supperb job on Mucky Fingers, i am proud of him, he sounds so great, i'm glad he sings in at least two songs on each Oasis album!!!
yeh Mucky Fingers is really growing on me like Lyla...
Gem's harmonica doesnt really impress me though

[tucker carlson]

loves like a bomb
god thinks im able

i kinda of thought they were the stand out tracks but perhaps i alone

[AxlUlrich]

loves like a bomb
god thinks im able

i kinda of thought they were the stand out tracks but perhaps i alone
they were too short for me...but Liam's lyrics are improving alot

[soulsinging]

becos im obssessed with it lately, here's my track by track rundown of this one:

turn up the sun- great opener, it's got a nice groove and kinda reminds me of that "reach out and touch faith" song for some reason.

mucky fingers- noel's songs shine all the more now that he doesnt have to write so many shite filler tunes. this is one. heavy bob dylan/wilco influence as i see it. i love it.

lyla- wasnt too keen on it at first, but it grows on me. solid rock track but definitely nothing special as far as this album goes. nonetheless one of their better tunes in years.

love like a bomb- the grown up version of songbird. a sweet love tune where liam finally shows he can write a decent hook with lyrics that aren't laughable.

importance of being idle- i dont get the hype. it's a good song, but i think both noel ditties on this album are better. it's got a fun feel to it though.

meaning of soul- reminds me of green disease. i like that they finally seem to show a little restraint with the rockers on this one.

guess god thinks im abel- puts me in mind of a latter day pearl jam tune. it's got great tension and atmosphere and seems ready to explode... but it doesn't. i love it.

part of the queue- my fav noel tune this go round. great chorus (his singing is exponentially better than heathen chem) and the coda is perfect, love that piano.

keep the dream alive- my fav song on here... and not a gllagher brother tune! the chorus is so catchy and uplifting. really takes me back to old school oasis. too bad it'll probly never get single status cos i think it'd be a hit.

a bell will ring- the best rocker on here. the attitude is back, reminds me of the song morning glory with its edge and attitude. stellar.

let there be love- classic oasis closer. my friend heard about 5 seconds the first listen and was like "this is the last song isnt it?" but it's still good. reminds me of wilco's poor places. it's a nice duet, but in the end it doesn't hit me like some of these tracks have. nonetheless, great way to close a fantastic album.

[Swallow Poison]

After several listens at the weekend, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel has been elavated to joint top spot with Keep The Dream Alive.

Liam's new-found prowess is as surprising as it is refreshing...

[AxlUlrich]

After several listens at the weekend, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel has been elavated to joint top spot with Keep The Dream Alive.

Liam's new-found prowess is as surprising as it is refreshing...
yeh Liam really does shine on this album...it's great to see him mature alot as a songwriter since he started writing songs on SOTSOG

[amentvedder]

Right i was at the supermarket last night and picked this up. I didn't think i would buy another Oasis album as Heathen Chem bored me to tears after one week. But i wanted it for my collection as i have all the singles etc. I'm glad i bought it! Its only 2 listens but i like it straight away. Mucky Fingers is a good tune, guess god and loves like a bomb are standing out first few listens. Liams vocals, different, i dont know what it is but i likey



In the sunshiiiiiiiine :D

[DocChicago]

Liam may have matured as a songwriter, but not in other domains. If he does this in Boston I'm going to personally kick his ass.
(Story from dotmusic.com)
============================== ==========
Liam abandons gig
(Tuesday June 14, 2005 10:48 AM)

Liam Gallagher is reported to have stormed offstage at an Oasis show in Italy midway through the gig.

Gallagher junior apparently stopped singing during through a rendition of "Champagne Supernova" at a festival in Imola, Italy, as part of the band's European tour.

The gig, at the Heineken Jammin' Festival, continued without Liam, after brother Noel took over singing duities and reshuffled the set-list after it became clear Liam was not returning.

According to reports in The Sun this morning, Noel believes Liam has "lost interest" in the band. He explained: "I don't talk to Liam any more. I can't. It always ends up in a fight.

"He screams like some juvenile to get attention. It's so sad. He's so defiant all the time. Lately it's been like he's lost interest."

Oasis begin a full UK tour at Hampden Park in Glasgow, Scotland on June 29.

[AxlUlrich]

heres a video of Liam walking off stage...
http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23YOHE5DACKRO2O6C7XR K8MTLO

[Cornflakegrl98]

Liam may have matured as a songwriter, but not in other domains. If he does this in Boston I'm going to personally kick his ass.
(Story from dotmusic.com)
============================== ==========
Liam abandons gig
(Tuesday June 14, 2005 10:48 AM)

Liam Gallagher is reported to have stormed offstage at an Oasis show in Italy midway through the gig.

Gallagher junior apparently stopped singing during through a rendition of "Champagne Supernova" at a festival in Imola, Italy, as part of the band's European tour.

The gig, at the Heineken Jammin' Festival, continued without Liam, after brother Noel took over singing duities and reshuffled the set-list after it became clear Liam was not returning.

According to reports in The Sun this morning, Noel believes Liam has "lost interest" in the band. He explained: "I don't talk to Liam any more. I can't. It always ends up in a fight.

"He screams like some juvenile to get attention. It's so sad. He's so defiant all the time. Lately it's been like he's lost interest."

Oasis begin a full UK tour at Hampden Park in Glasgow, Scotland on June 29.

UGH! I thought he was over that bullshit, if he does that at MSG i will also kick his ass, not that I would mind just hearing noel since he's just as good.

[DocChicago]

I've already been through a Noel-only vocals show (back in Chicago in '96). I watched the video and there does not appear to be anything that sets him off. He just plain waves goodnight and walks offstage. I love this band, but Liam is such a douchebag.

[AxlUlrich]

I've already been through a Noel-only vocals show (back in Chicago in '96). I watched the video and there does not appear to be anything that sets him off. He just plain waves goodnight and walks offstage. I love this band, but Liam is such a douchebag.
apparently something was thrown at him..no matter what i still idolise Liam...hes still my fave member of the band

[Cornflakegrl98]

there's a lot of speculation over at the oasis forum on their official website, some say hit was hit in the head with a water bottle, some say he lost his voice and some think he was just being an asshole.

apparently there is a rumor floating around that they are scrapping the first week of the US tour because noel and liam aren't speaking, who the fuck knows at this point what the hell is going on, all I know is their asses better be onstage on the 22nd at MSG or I will be PISSED.

[long road walker]

lol, thanx for the link, that is great, hey yeah i t sucks dick, if your at the show, but for me thats what makes Liam & Oasis so fuckin cool, plus I am in a band w my brother so i know how tough it is,

hopefully they will be @ MSG , i am fuckin pumped up for the show

at least SUPERNOVA was fuckin rocking

[PJammin']

lol, thanx for the link, that is great, hey yeah i t sucks dick, if your at the show, but for me thats what makes Liam & Oasis so fuckin cool, plus I am in a band w my brother so i know how tough it is,

yeah, it's so fucking cool to be a prick and walk offstage leaving many fans hanging out to dry because you're a big baby. many people travel far and wide to see their favorite band only to be thanked by some asshole walking off stage in the middle of the set.

[long road walker]

no i hear ya that that sucks, especially for the fans, he is an asshole, but their is just some sense that he is all fucked up that adds to his aura (for me at least) thats all im saying

[A Surprise Left]

i don't get why people love asshole musos...in this case liam. oasis are a great band but liam is a douche and a half. he's right up there with axl rose, fred durst and scott stapp.

[kdpjam]

at any rate, i am going to crank the new oasis. i have to get modest mouse out of my head because once again I AM MISSING ANOTHER SHOW here.

[AxlUlrich]

i would say its all part of the unpredictable danger of rock n roll..i dont mind it...if u wanted a safe show with nothing to go wrong then go watch Hillary Duff in concert..
looks like DBTT has dropped to no.36 on the billboards with sales of 31k or so..

[PJammin']

i don't get why people love asshole musos...in this case liam. oasis are a great band but liam is a douche and a half. he's right up there with axl rose, fred durst and scott stapp.

yeah, him and axl are pretty much on par. i bought their album, but i won't see them live. i feel sorry for Noel. he's been dealing with his shit for too long now. i love the new album though.

[A Surprise Left]

i would say its all part of the unpredictable danger of rock n roll..i dont mind it...if u wanted a safe show with nothing to go wrong then go watch Hillary Duff in concert..
looks like DBTT has dropped to no.36 on the billboards with sales of 31k or so..

i don't want hilary duff but i don't want an asshole lead singer thinking he is "dangerous". the dude reckons he's the best rock and roll star his country has produced for goodness sakes lol. noel is a BRILLANT songwriter and i like liam as a frontman but he's a complete and utter tool.

[AxlUlrich]

i don't want hilary duff but i don't want an asshole lead singer thinking he is "dangerous". the dude reckons he's the best rock and roll star his country has produced for goodness sakes lol. noel is a BRILLANT songwriter and i like liam as a frontman but he's a complete and utter tool.
Liam has proven to be a brilliant songwriter too over the past 2 albums...let him think hes the greatest or whatever its who he is and i dont really see anything negative about it cept yeh of course leaving shows halfway..but hey whats Liam for u..im used it hah

[El Riot Actor]

After two weeks with Dont Belive the Truth i can honestly say this is a first class Oasis album!

[AxlUlrich]

After two weeks with Dont Belive the Truth i can honestly say this is a first class Oasis album!
yeh i'd say that too..im still not bored of it

[El Riot Actor]

yeh i'd say that too..im still not bored of it

it's really cool shit, i still cannot beleive Liam walked off stage, i really dont care, it doesn't bother me... I just hope they dont cancel any dates on their tour!

[AxlUlrich]

it's really cool shit, i still cannot beleive Liam walked off stage, i really dont care, it doesn't bother me... I just hope they dont cancel any dates on their tour!
i think it will be very silly to cancel any dates on the US tour..cos the album is doing pretty decent now on the Billboard charts ( #37 this week) close to 100k copies sold which is an improvement from Heathen Chemisty too.
i hope the US tour will boost album sales too,more people need to hear material from this album..i think it isnt doing as well as it should in US cos people are ignoring this album based on the previous 2 albums which got mixed reviews.

[amentvedder]

wee bit bored of it now although i think its so much better than last 2 albums. worth owning alone for mucky fingers which i think is an excellent track!!

i need new PEARL JAM !!!!! :(
Crapshoot - i'm lovin

[SnurpyMooks]

Well I never thought my first post on this forum would be about Oasis but it's the first topic to catch my attention.

For what it's worth, I think Don't Believe The Truth is a great album. No doubt whatsoever it's their best since Be Here Now. These guys are bloody talented and so what if they re-write the past when they do it so well.

[AxlUlrich]

Well I never thought my first post on this forum would be about Oasis but it's the first topic to catch my attention.

For what it's worth, I think Don't Believe The Truth is a great album. No doubt whatsoever it's their best since Be Here Now. These guys are bloody talented and so what if they re-write the past when they do it so well.
nice first post :D
welcome to the pit :)

[El Riot Actor]

i think it will be very silly to cancel any dates on the US tour..cos the album is doing pretty decent now on the Billboard charts ( #37 this week) close to 100k copies sold which is an improvement from Heathen Chemisty too.
i hope the US tour will boost album sales too,more people need to hear material from this album..i think it isnt doing as well as it should in US cos people are ignoring this album based on the previous 2 albums which got mixed reviews.

it'd be nice if it went at least Gold.... but i'd say to accomplish that they need a succesful u.s. tour (which it seems to be so far) and a few more hit singles or one really big single!

[AxlUlrich]

it'd be nice if it went at least Gold.... but i'd say to accomplish that they need a succesful u.s. tour (which it seems to be so far) and a few more hit singles or one really big single!
The next US single is Let There Be Love..and not sure if it's gonna do well..
i think if they can sell 200k it would already be an accomplishment

[El Riot Actor]

The next US single is Let There Be Love..and not sure if it's gonna do well..
i think if they can sell 200k it would already be an accomplishment

If they sell 200k thats fine with me! Oasis fans in the u.s are a special rare breed..... that's all it mean to me :)

[AxlUlrich]

If they sell 200k thats fine with me! Oasis fans in the u.s are a special rare breed..... that's all it mean to me :)
yeh lol..
200 k would seem like going multi platinum! haha!
just at times i feel its a pity a good record like this is being ignored by huge masses

[PJammin']

just at times i feel its a pity a good record like this is being ignored by huge masses

...because most of the huge masses don't know good music. i still love the album too.

[AxlUlrich]

...because most of the huge masses don't know good music. i still love the album too.
sad but true..
somehow i still feel people are ignoring this album due to the failures of their previous 2 albums and slag the band off even before giving a listen

[LedZepFan]

I picked this up today, I am impressed. So far I've heard "Lyla" through "Part of the Queue(sp?)" and its damn good. Its a shame that a lot of people are overlooking this based on Oasis' past records. I asked my teacher if he was gonna get it and he said no but he hasnt even heard this one, it was just based on the past few.

[AxlUlrich]

I picked this up today, I am impressed. So far I've heard "Lyla" through "Part of the Queue(sp?)" and its damn good. Its a shame that a lot of people are overlooking this based on Oasis' past records. I asked my teacher if he was gonna get it and he said no but he hasnt even heard this one, it was just based on the past few.
yeh this is what i was afraid of...overlooking based of past records..
Part of the Queue to me is really an underrated tune..its my favorite..but most people on the oasis forums dont rate it that highly

[LedZepFan]

So far its one of my favorites too

[AxlUlrich]

So far its one of my favorites too
sadly it wont be a single as Liam confirmed..i think its a way better single than Let There Be Love or Love Like a Bomb

[Cornflakegrl98]

i think oasis just need to kick ass on this US tour to get people interested in them again and create some buzz about them, so far the reviews i've read have been positive, liam's voice sounds great, the band sounds tight and Zak is kicking ass on drums, can't wait until wednesday!

[soulsinging]

sadly it wont be a single as Liam confirmed..i think its a way better single than Let There Be Love or Love Like a Bomb

i half agree. dont think let there be love will do well as a single stateside. love like a bomb has potential i think. also keep the dream alive.

[AxlUlrich]

i half agree. dont think let there be love will do well as a single stateside. love like a bomb has potential i think. also keep the dream alive.
dont think LTBL will do well in US too..
but well LTBL is the next single in US while The Importance of Being Idle is the UK one..out August 22nd

[MoonlightDrive81]

yeh this is what i was afraid of...overlooking based of past records..
Part of the Queue to me is really an underrated tune..its my favorite..but most people on the oasis forums dont rate it that highly


so far it's my favorite on the album. "every beginning is breaking its promise."
fucking great line.

[AxlUlrich]

so far it's my favorite on the album. "every beginning is breaking its promise."
fucking great line.
3 of Noel's gems on this album Part of the Queue,The Importance of Being Idle and Mucky Fingers all have pretty strong lyrics.These 3 songs for me kinda has a connection lyric wise

[Jellyrolls]

I can't believe Liam wrote a song like he did. Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a badass song..Liam went balls out for this one

[AxlUlrich]

I can't believe Liam wrote a song like he did. Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a badass song..Liam went balls out for this one
i was reading how the band thought the song was called Guess God Thinks I'm Mabel when Liam first rehearsed it.band was wondering why the hell does God think Liam is a girl named Mabel..:|
i think its a great song..but among the Liam tracks..i prefer The Meaning of Soul and Love Like a Bomb
GGTIA feels incomplete to me...really wished the did something with that outro

[Jellyrolls]

Is there anything this band can't do?

[LedZepFan]

which Gallagher is the official frontman/lead singer?

[amentvedder]

which Gallagher is the official frontman/lead singer?
Liam, now think of the best front man in the world, Eddie, nuff said

[AxlUlrich]

Liam needs to stop smoking and drinking..its really affecting his throat

[AxlUlrich]

rumor is that Noel will be doing al vocals for their next 4 shows(including MSG) cos Liam is having throat problems...well its just a rumor..for now..

[El Riot Actor]

rumor is that Noel will be doing al vocals for their next 4 shows(including MSG) cos Liam is having throat problems...well its just a rumor..for now..


Ohhhhhh sh*t! I hope it aint truth....but dont beleive the truth...haha

[AxlUlrich]

so how was MSG?!
im sure some went!(not me of course :()

[long road walker]

it was cool, im hungover & have to head to work now, so ill let others write a review, same setlist that was posted here a few days ago, Liam was there, stayed the whole night, I had a great time., cool show

[AxlUlrich]

it was cool, im hungover & have to head to work now, so ill let others write a review, same setlist that was posted here a few days ago, Liam was there, stayed the whole night, I had a great time., cool show
thats great to hear!
MSG did help DBTT jump more than 10 places up on amazon too..so thats a great sign

[DocChicago]

They come to Boston (well, technically Mansfield) tomorrow. I'm amped for the show. I'll have a review for you, but not until Monday.

[Cornflakegrl98]

so how was MSG?!
im sure some went!(not me of course :()

Jet opened the show, they weren't bad, actually they are a better band when they were just jamming and not playing just their songs because they sounded different. Their drummer is insane and entertaining to watch. Definitely not the best opening band i've seen but definitely not the worst! But MSG is tough because most of the times, people don't even pay attention to the opening act and are rude but Jet actually held everyone's attention and people were into it, which was cool.

MSG was awesome, the band sounds TIGHT, Liam's voice was excellent (sounds even better than he does on Familiar to Millions), Noel was in a great mood and actually talked and joked and Zak Starkey is amazing, he went wild during "my generation". Total different style of drumming from Ringo, he's more like Keith Moon, beating the shit out of his drums, heh. When Liam first walked out on stage, he was like "we've finally made it here" and did his snotty strut all night, soaking up all the attention, heh.

My only complaints, no Supersonic, Columbia, not a lot of stuff from be here now, heathen chemistry or SOTSOG and they only played 90 minutes, i was hoping that maybe NYC would be treated to a little something special but alas I am spoiled by pearl jam :) Bring it on Down, one of my favorites, was totally ignored by the crowd, at least where I was but champagne supernova was the definite highlight, sounded 10 times better than it does on morning glory. And they played Meaning of Soul, which is my fav from the new album, it was great, a 2 minute burst of energy, fantastic!

i think liam and noel are still pissed at each other, liam was trying to say something before wonderwall and noel started the song so liam was like "i'll just fucking shut up" and I think liam was pissed a few times about the arrangements, like "bring it on down" was way to fast so he like held up his hand to noel to slow down.

here's the setlist:

Fuckin' in the Bushes
Turn up the Sun
Lyla
Love Like a Bomb
Bring it on Down
Morning Glory
Cigarettes and Alcohol
The Importance of being Idle
Little by Little
A Bell Will Ring
Live Forever
The Meaning of Soul
Mucky Fingers
Champagne Supernova
Rock n' Roll Star

Encore:

Songbird
Wonderwall
Don't Look Back in Anger
My Generation

[AxlUlrich]

thats a neat setlist!
The Meaning of Soul is one of my favs too..the energy!
yeh i downloaded a few videos with Zak and damn he can really drum!
glad the show turned out great..maybe america will show alittle more love now too for Oasis

[Cornflakegrl98]

thats a neat setlist!
The Meaning of Soul is one of my favs too..the energy!
yeh i downloaded a few videos with Zak and damn he can really drum!
glad the show turned out great..maybe america will show alittle more love now too for Oasis

hopefully, in the row in front of me, were a couple of older yuppies who seriously just showed up to hear Wonderwall, that was the only song they actually were into, i hate when people do that. Noel let the crowd sing the entire chorus to DLBIA, so there's still a lot of love for Oasis in NYC and the garden was sold out. if they keep turning out top notch performances like last night, they should definitely get more people interested in Don't believe the Truth.

[AxlUlrich]

hopefully, in the row in front of me, were a couple of older yuppies who seriously just showed up to hear Wonderwall, that was the only song they actually were into, i hate when people do that. Noel let the crowd sing the entire chorus to DLBIA, so there's still a lot of love for Oasis in NYC and the garden was sold out. if they keep turning out top notch performances like last night, they should definitely get more people interested in Don't believe the Truth.
well the album moved up 10 spots on amazon chart..thats a decent enough sign!
i remember back in 2000 or 2001...i watched David Spade on Conan and he said he just went to see Oasis to play Wonderwall..and they din play it..went on to diss Oasis..fucking midget...

[Cornflakegrl98]

well the album moved up 10 spots on amazon chart..thats a decent enough sign!
i remember back in 2000 or 2001...i watched David Spade on Conan and he said he just went to see Oasis to play Wonderwall..and they din play it..went on to diss Oasis..fucking midget...

that's cool, even though I thought Heathen Chemistry and SOTSOG were quite good, I think this is the way Oasis have to technically "prove" themselves to the US again, by going out and rocking the new songs. and they played 3 new songs in a row so they definitely have faith in the new material.

pfft Wonderwall wasn't even a highlight for me, it was great to hear it live in person but I really would have rather heard "gas panic", "force of nature" "the hindu times" "cast no shadow" "d'you know what I mean" or "columbia" to be quite honest.

[AxlUlrich]

that's cool, even though I thought Heathen Chemistry and SOTSOG were quite good, I think this is the way Oasis have to technically "prove" themselves to the US again, by going out and rocking the new songs. and they played 3 new songs in a row so they definitely have faith in the new material.

pfft Wonderwall wasn't even a highlight for me, it was great to hear it live in person but I really would have rather heard "gas panic", "force of nature" "the hindu times" "cast no shadow" "d'you know what I mean" or "columbia" to be quite honest.
"Gas Panic" "D'YKWIM" and "Columbia" really sound great live i never did enjoy Wondewall or Champagne Supernova live...
probably my favorite live tracks from them are Columbia,Go Let it Out,Supersonic,Slide Away,Gas Panic and Morning Glory

[dueman]

Oasis don't need to prove themselves to the US. Americans don't really have the best taste in music and Oasis aren't appreciated enough in the states. Don't Believe The Truth is a great album and I was lucky enough to see them in Toronto on Friday and they were awsome. All of Oasis' albums are quality, but casual fans won't enjoy Heathen Chemisty or SOTSOG. The new album is great and that's all that matters.

[AxlUlrich]

Oasis don't need to prove themselves to the US. Americans don't really have the best taste in music and Oasis aren't appreciated enough in the states. Don't Believe The Truth is a great album and I was lucky enough to see them in Toronto on Friday and they were awsome. All of Oasis' albums are quality, but casual fans won't enjoy Heathen Chemisty or SOTSOG. The new album is great and that's all that matters.
welcome to the pit :D

[Big Tones]

Oasis don't need to prove themselves to the US. Americans don't really have the best taste in music and Oasis aren't appreciated enough in the states. Don't Believe The Truth is a great album and I was lucky enough to see them in Toronto on Friday and they were awsome. All of Oasis' albums are quality, but casual fans won't enjoy Heathen Chemisty or SOTSOG. The new album is great and that's all that matters.

I agree with this. Bands like Pearl Jam and a handfull of others aside, I would argue that the US is one of the worst music scenes right now for rock and roll. Oasis has a large audience in many other countries; I don't think they should even tour the US again after their first week sales of Don't Believe the Truth. I say stick to Europe and Canada; the US doesn't get it yet.

BT

[Cornflakegrl98]

"Gas Panic" "D'YKWIM" and "Columbia" really sound great live i never did enjoy Wondewall or Champagne Supernova live...
probably my favorite live tracks from them are Columbia,Go Let it Out,Supersonic,Slide Away,Gas Panic and Morning Glory

Columbia, D'YKWIM and Slide Away I've never heard live so it would have been awesome to hear those :( for the others I've got Familiar to Millions but that doesn't compare the live experience...

it would be cool though if they incorporate more material from BHN, SOTSOG and HC because there are some awesome songs there that people would love live, hell people were going nuts for "little by little" last night!

[AxlUlrich]

Columbia, D'YKWIM and Slide Away I've never heard live so it would have been awesome to hear those :( for the others I've got Familiar to Millions but that doesn't compare the live experience...

it would be cool though if they incorporate more material from BHN, SOTSOG and HC because there are some awesome songs there that people would love live, hell people were going nuts for "little by little" last night!
lol i love Little by Little!
i wished they would play Born on a Different Cloud ! those two were my favs from HC
i would even go wild for I Can See a Liar or Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is!
well i have only heard Oasis live on cds or dvds...:(
never got a chance to see them live at all in all my 10 years of being a fan...had tickets for a show in 02 but it was cancelled sigh...

[Cornflakegrl98]

lol i love Little by Little!
i wished they would play Born on a Different Cloud ! those two were my favs from HC
i would even go wild for I Can See a Liar or Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is!
well i have only heard Oasis live on cds or dvds...:(
never got a chance to see them live at all in all my 10 years of being a fan...had tickets for a show in 02 but it was cancelled sigh...

i was totally surprised about little by little, i really wasn't a fan of the song but after last night, it sparked my interest.

i would also love to hear "better man" from heathen chemistry, another one of my favs, love liam's vocals!

are you going to see them this tour?

i've been a fan since 1995 and i never saw them because of all the stuff i heard about them cancelling shows and liam walking off, etc. but unless something happens, this tour definitely seems like the tour to see them on since they appear to be incredibly happy to be playing live.

[AxlUlrich]

i was totally surprised about little by little, i really wasn't a fan of the song but after last night, it sparked my interest.

i would also love to hear "better man" from heathen chemistry, another one of my favs, love liam's vocals!

are you going to see them this tour?

i've been a fan since 1995 and i never saw them because of all the stuff i heard about them cancelling shows and liam walking off, etc. but unless something happens, this tour definitely seems like the tour to see them on since they appear to be incredibly happy to be playing live.
i actually kinda enjoy Liam walking off stage..lol
once i told my friend i'd be the happiest bloke if Liam headbutted me at an airport as i ask for an autograph :)

[Cornflakegrl98]

i actually kinda enjoy Liam walking off stage..lol
once i told my friend i'd be the happiest bloke if Liam headbutted me at an airport as i ask for an autograph :)

heh, but liam seems to have really mellowed out these days, he only said fucking about 4 times last night, i was disappointed and not one "fuck" out of noel. fatherhood has obviously tamed them!

[AxlUlrich]

heh, but liam seems to have really mellowed out these days, he only said fucking about 4 times last night, i was disappointed and not one "fuck" out of noel. fatherhood has obviously tamed them!
yeh fatherhood can really change a man heh.im surprised to read you say they din say "fuck" alot...i still seem to see alot of "fucks" during magazine interviews etc
Noel is still as witty as ever and Liam is still as tactless as ever :D

[El Riot Actor]

i actually kinda enjoy Liam walking off stage..lol
once i told my friend i'd be the happiest bloke if Liam headbutted me at an airport as i ask for an autograph :)


Wow...that would be some head butt...... seriously, a head butt from Liam! You would feel it at least for a few weeks.....auch!

[AxlUlrich]

Wow...that would be some head butt...... seriously, a head butt from Liam! You would feel it at least for a few weeks.....auch!
yeh lucky for me i have a hard head...i can bang my head on the wall..and have no feeling and have a cracked wall..lol

[El Riot Actor]

yeh lucky for me i have a hard head...i can bang my head on the wall..and have no feeling and have a cracked wall..lol

That means you both are hard headed 'cause we all know Liam is hard headed as can be....

[AxlUlrich]

That means you both are hard headed 'cause we all know Liam is hard headed as can be....
yeh and i havent had a haircut for 5 months..hair will cushion any blow :D

[El Riot Actor]

yeh and i havent had a haircut for 5 months..hair will cushion any blow :D

You must have Dimebags hair then......

[AxlUlrich]

You must have Dimebags hair then......
nah it looks more like Noel's hair..but thicker..haha...like a helmet!

[DocChicago]

i would even go wild for I Can See a Liar or Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is!


I'm a huge fan of this band, but if they ever played one of those two turds I would go take a piss.

The setlist looks great. Does anyone know if there are any changes from show to show, or is it completely static?

[Cornflakegrl98]

I'm a huge fan of this band, but if they ever played one of those two turds I would go take a piss.

The setlist looks great. Does anyone know if there are any changes from show to show, or is it completely static?

it's pretty static, the encores are always the same. sometimes they'll play let there be love instead of love like a bomb or the meaning of soul. acquiesce made one appearance i think. otherwise they are playing the same stuff each show.

[DocChicago]

acquiesce made one appearance i think.

Oh man, that would be a treat if they play it tomorrow. I missed them on their last tour, since Boston was one of the shows they dropped due to the car crash.

[El Riot Actor]

nah it looks more like Noel's hair..but thicker..haha...like a helmet!


Haha...... cool!

[long road walker]

i would of loved to hear , supersonic, acquiese (amazin tune) & dont go away, they could of added thise in & been real AMAZING , but hey ya cant have everything , great show

[AxlUlrich]

DBTT has dropped all the way down to #72 on the Billboard charts..
yikes..

[El Riot Actor]

DBTT has dropped all the way down to #72 on the Billboard charts..
yikes..

Dont worry... Oasis is British and how they do in England is what matters for them, we are just the lucky ones in America that appreciate one of the best rock bands!

[Cornflakegrl98]

DBTT has dropped all the way down to #72 on the Billboard charts..
yikes..

eh i wouldn't worry, as long as they keep making music that's all that matters

[AxlUlrich]

JUST HANGING OUT ?

DID Mary-Kate Olsen have a little too much fun partying with Brit poppers Oasis after their Garden gig the other night? "When she came out of Oasis' dressing room, she almost crashed into me," our spy reports. "Her big bodyguard had her by the arms ... She was in rough shape." The bite-sized billionaire, clad in a KISS shirt, denim skirt and cowboy boots, was half-carried into the service elevator and off to the VIP bathroom. "Whatever the implication is, it's ridiculous," Olsen's rep assures us. "She was just hanging out with the band. Nothing went on whatsoever."

source: page 6 NY Post

wtf...lol..

[amentvedder]

First it was Charlotte Church they were hanging around with saying she can drink em under the table now an Olsen twin!

I was listening to Be Here Now at the weekend and i've never realised before, i love every song on that album!!